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Family fined thousands over daughter's playhouse
WTNH Television ^ | 1/18/2007 | Puppage

Posted on 01/18/2007 4:58:26 AM PST by Puppage

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To: HEY4QDEMS

I love the way the town granted the Zoning Board member a retroactive building permit for the neighbor's three-year-old shed. This thing is going to get more and more embarrassing for the town.

They should just imagine how it will look when the parents hire an excavator to come and crush the child's playhouse --teddy bears, storybooks and all -- on Live TV while the adorable little munchkin wails in the background and reporters are pounding on Thomasina O'Boyle's car window asking for a comment.


41 posted on 01/18/2007 6:01:27 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: elli1
Thank you for your description.

I won an $8000 playhouse on a $10 raffle ticket last year. It is adorable - hardwood floors, barrel ceiling, beadboard walls, three little windows, and a circle top door. Since my children are in college, we put it out by our pool as a changing room for guests. The structure is a wonderful addition to our yard, and may even increases the value of my property. Thank God I live in Alabama where this type of government interference is rarely experienced.

42 posted on 01/18/2007 6:01:51 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Realism
Most if not all zoning laws have a certain square footage at which zoning kicks in and says its a "structure" shed, barn, outbuilding, whatever. There is no argument or question if the law is written properly.

The fight here is whether or not it's a shed or a play structure and how the town goes about determining which is which as well as whether or not to enforce an ordinance.

There are sheds decked out to look like houses, but most don't have nice windows and a porch. People normally don't put lots of windows on sheds to deter thieves interested in their lawn tractors, tools, etc. This little (emphasis on "little") playhouse isn't a shed, it's not used as a shed, and how the town made that determination needs to be examined very closely, especially since the neighbor was given a free pass. The playhouse, however, does have a concrete foundation (makes sense structurally), which could be part of the reason the town ruled as it did.

From what I understand in the video and news report, the lot sizes have restrictions as to how large a footprint any structure can have. It appears to be an actual zoning law rather than an association requirement, which surprises me a little. In this case, however, the town needs to either rescind the neighbor's permit for her shed or reclassify the playhouse to represente what it really is.

43 posted on 01/18/2007 6:09:28 AM PST by Kieri (A Grafted Branch (Rom. 11))
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To: ShadowDancer

Doesn't look MASSIVE to me . My 8x10 shed is bigger. No porch on my shed.


44 posted on 01/18/2007 6:12:34 AM PST by Renegade
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To: bondjamesbond
Getting on the local TV news is a good start.

I agree, my father-in-law was in a dispute with a neighbor who's brother was a local LEO. This LEO issued him a speeding ticket for doing 37mph in a 35mph zone.

He took the ticket down to the station and said you can either fix this now or it will be on all the news stations by tomorrow.

They fixed it right there on the spot.
45 posted on 01/18/2007 6:15:42 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Realism
In my town, the zoning regs kick in at 100 Square feet for an outbuilding/shed/whatever.

My "Barnlet" is 12 feet X 8 Feet.

96 Square Feet.

46 posted on 01/18/2007 6:17:01 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Gorzaloon

Your lucky, my town used to be 100sf, about three or four years ago it was reduced to 64sf.


47 posted on 01/18/2007 6:19:34 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Puppage

An intrusive government oversteps its bounds again. It sticks its nose into what was formerly called "private property", tells the people who formerly were called "owners" what to do, then has the gall to send a confiscatory tax bill every year.


48 posted on 01/18/2007 6:28:11 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Fascism is wrong even if it's practiced by the government)
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To: Kieri
In this case, however, the town needs to either rescind the neighbor's permit for her shed or reclassify the playhouse to represente what it really is.

First of all we don't know when or what laws were in effect when the neighbors built their shed so it's irrelevant.

Secondly the word structure has a clear definition, it doesn't really matter what you use it for, it's still a structure. How it's broken down from there (living space, storage, etc.)would be regulated as current law specifies. Many laws say you are only allowed a certain percent of a lot to be covered by structures. It's meant to prevent overcrowding of densely populated areas.

49 posted on 01/18/2007 6:30:01 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Puppage

Couldn't this homeowner apply the "its for the children" rule here?


50 posted on 01/18/2007 6:30:34 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Teacher317

You can buy those at Home Depot for about $5.4K in Texas dollars.


51 posted on 01/18/2007 6:40:12 AM PST by Deguello
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To: Gorzaloon
You planned well. I did the same, our law is 120sf.x 10' high, so I stayed just under. I used to chair a planning board so I know very well how things work and how Zoning can be a double edge sword.
52 posted on 01/18/2007 6:41:10 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: nutmeg

another wacky CT town PING! Wasn't Stonington also the town a few years back where that homeowner painted his house black in protest of the neighbors fighting to not allow him to add on to his own house?


53 posted on 01/18/2007 6:45:30 AM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: Puppage
The neighbor resigned from the zoning board just as the proverbial poop hit the fan? The neighbor's shed is grandfathered because no town official noticed the shed for the first three years of it's existance and no neighbors complained? Never mind the fact that the offending structure was built by a...

MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD?!

Hmmm.... I wonder what's buried under the neighbor's shed. Why won't she answer the door? What is the neighbor hiding? Has anyone seen her husband lately? Why have the neighborhood pets been disappearing? Where have they gone? Can any of these questions be answered with the removal of the former ZONING BOARD MEMBER'S ILLEGAL-SIZED SHED?

54 posted on 01/18/2007 6:47:00 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Puppage
"Pretty frustrated, very upset, and very threatened I felt too," she said.



"Feel the wrath of big brother you will. Yes. Yes."
55 posted on 01/18/2007 6:51:35 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: bondjamesbond
But none of that matters. The playhouse has annoyed her neighbor. Her neighbor is on the Zoning Board. Her neighbor will use her power and connections to get the playhouse removed. End of story.

That must be the neighbor with the huge shed. People should follow their zoning regulations, but there seems to be a neighbor feud element to this one.

56 posted on 01/18/2007 7:03:38 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Realism
You planned well. I did the same, our law is 120sf.x 10' high, so I stayed just under. I used to chair a planning board so I know very well how things work and how Zoning can be a double edge sword.

I talked to the building inspector first. He actually suggested the size. What with all the McMansions going in, he had bigger fish to fry and fatter tax generators to chase than a garden shed. He told me I could build several if I needed more storage. I have an acre, half wooded.

58 posted on 01/18/2007 7:14:46 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Puppage

See the video on the website.

It is a playhouse. Not a shed.
An adult would have to duck to enter the doorway.

And the neighbor's "shed" is more like a full sized barn.

OTOH - Allegedly, the town inspector did review the plans for the playhouse and gave it his approval...but this was larger than what the inspector gave approval for.


59 posted on 01/18/2007 7:21:07 AM PST by kidd
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To: Doohickey

Ah now there is the real answer, Stonington, CT., no need to say more.


60 posted on 01/18/2007 7:25:08 AM PST by chiefqc
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