Skip to comments.The Origin of Man (Combating Darwinism)
Posted on 01/18/2007 1:00:43 PM PST by scottdeus12
Darwin put forward his claim that human beings and apes descended from a common ancestor in his book The Descent of Man, published in 1871. From that time until now, the followers of Darwin's path have tried to support this claim. But despite all the research that has been carried out, the claim of "human evolution" has not been backed up by any concrete scientific discovery, particularly in the fossil field.
The man in the street is for the most part unaware of this fact, and thinks that the claim of human evolution is supported by a great deal of firm evidence. The reason for this incorrect opinion is that the subject is frequently discussed in the media and presented as a proven fact. But real experts on the subject are aware that there is no scientific foundation for the claim of human evolution. David Pilbeam, a Harvard University paleoanthropologist, says:
If you brought in a smart scientist from another discipline and showed him the meagre evidence we've got he'd surely say, "forget it; there isn't enough to go on."
(Excerpt) Read more at darwinismrefuted.com ...
Harun Yahya needs to evolve.
What drivel. You posted the same nonsense yesterday, and I cited dozens of human ancestors. Moreover, in addition to overwhelming fossil evidence, genetics now proves beyond any doubt that humans are apes.
Common descent is so firmly established, that even the Intelligent Designers and many creationists accept it. Get with the program!
"Common descent is so firmly established, that even the Intelligent Designers and many creationists accept it. Get with the program!"
Your opinion. There's plenty of other info out there that contradicts your position.
After you posted Turkana Boy, I found plenty of info to dispute the veracity of that claim.
How insecure you must feel...
So you admit that IDers are really biblical creationists in disguise. Thanks for the confirmation.
I was thinking *S-N-O-R-E.*
These people sure could use a new song and dance.
"How insecure you must feel..."
Actually, I'm not insecure at all.
Is this a dispatch from the Flat Earth Society?
His pen-name, Harun Yahya, is formed from the names "Harun" (Aaron) and "Yahya" (John) in the esteemed memory of the two Prophets who struggled against infidelity.
Many works of Harun Yahya are being currently translated into English, French, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Portuguese, Albanian, Serbo-Croat (Bosnian), Polish, Urdu, Indonesian, Kazakh, Azeri, Malay and Malayalam. The target is to translate all books into English and many other languages in the near future, and thus to make them available for the benefit of all people.
The common point in all the writer's works is that all the topics covered by his works are in full agreement with the Qur'an, and strongly affirmed by Qur'anic understanding. Even the topics addressed by science and mostly considered complicated and confusing are narrated very lucidly and explicitly in the books of Harun Yahya. For this reason, these books appeal to everyone, from every age and social group.
Harun Yahya's books on faith-related topics communicate the existence and oneness of God and are written with the main purpose of introducing Islam to those who are strangers to religion, and reconciling their hearts to the truth. For Muslims, these books are advice as well as a reminder. The writer has published works on all the basic issues referred to in the Qur'an that expand the dedication and contemplation of Muslims.
Do you just pass on radical Islamic propaganda without reading it, or do you actually believe it?
You posted nonsense from some site that bizarrely claimed -- without offering any actual proof -- that Homo erectus is alive today.
Don't antagonize the radical Islamists. They might lop off your head.
I'd have written that creationism jumped the shark when its adherents started to post Wahabbi Muslim drivel, but creationism actually jumped the shark about 120 years ago.
There are serious creationists who are dishonest, and there are honest creationists who aren't serious. But there are no serious, honest creationists, and there haven't been in over a hundred years.
... and insulting the dishonest won't help you, either.
Unnatural selection? Will SOCOM protect us from the Taliban posting on FR?
You are not going to believe this one! Please be sure to check out the author's bio in post #11...
We are not going to get anywhere arguing for or against a faith based belief. Those who oppose evolution will not accept the miraculous nature of the process God uses to ensure the survival of His creations in a dynamic environment and those opposed to Divine involvement will never accept the hand of God in anything that they believe they comprehend.
What's the phrase I'm looking for? Useful ... I think Vladimir Ilyich might have liked it ... useful ... something. A noun, I think.
'I know exaxtoy"
I don't know exaxtoy, but would like to meet him! Can you arrange a meeting?
That just sounds nasty!
Sure you are. You feel the need to defend your faith, which in itself is sad but also screams how insecure you are about it.
Into what, an evo? Spare me.
Admit what?? I am simply stating a fact one cannot believe in universal common descent and be a creationist. I am a creationist and there is a difference.
Darwinists have had so little success discussing the science of their beliefs that they have turned it into a religion. If you try to discuss science with them they will shout insults at you until you give up and go away.
There is only one interpretation....different applications....remember context is king.
It also goes against science. Check out Lee Strobel's book "A Case For a Creator". Real scientists with real facts.
Will you do a word-by-word analysis with me of the Creation accounts in Genesis?
I am willing to use the King James Version of the Bible, if that is your wish.
We will discover that the text itself, on its own terms, is gives a muddled and contradictory account.
Rather than argue evolution versus Biblical Creation, let's stipulate that we are going to take the Bible word-for-word literally and go through the text.
When we're done, we will have two conflicting accounts, and we'll be looking for all that water above the stars.
Shall we begin?
Your statement confirms that Intelligent Design is really a ploy to teach biblical creationism.
I appreciate that.
When science contradicts myth, there will always be those who are heavily invested in myth and who cannot let it go. On a more pedestrian level, how many fought the end of the pony express, how many demanded an end to the intrusion of electricity, and how many shamen in the wilderness would have fought to the death against anti-biotics? The problem is that we are not open. Instead, we are closed and set by past beliefs, even though they be ancient, by needs tracable to childhood, even though they be simplistic, and by an often overwhelming fear of change, even though it be inevitable.
Your tagline says otherwise.
I'm merely raising the Darwinism debate...it's a contentious issue, wouldn't you agree?
Only to morons who believe in fairy tales.
So secure in fact that you post radical Sunni Muslim theology? Allahu Akbar!
LOL....you need to do a good bible study, you would find that one chapter is the outline,....the next give the details of creation.
"Will you do a word-by-word analysis with me of the Creation accounts in Genesis?"
Yup. Would you like to go first, since you brought it up?
No doubt, you do!
In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى, commonly transliterated as Isa) is considered one of God's most beloved and important prophets, a bringer of divine scripture, and also the Messiah. Muslims, however, do not share the Christian belief in the crucifixion or divinity of Jesus. Muslims believe that Jesus' crucifixion was a divine illusion and that he ascended bodily to heaven. Most Muslims also believe that he will return to the earth as Messiah in the company of the Mahdi once the earth has become full of sin and injustice.In your opinion, what role should the Mahdi play in creation science?
"Only to morons who believe in fairy tales."
Strike one. One more insult, and you get reported.
"Raising" and "lowering" are not synonyms.
The link to this website was in the context of combating Darwinism, not spreading Islam, kaker.
Give me a break already.
Thanks for the link, but I posted my own papers about this subject on the Internet nine years ago. Currently they're at http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/genesis/index.html
Thank you for teaching FR about the debate raging all across the Islamic world, in radical Sunni maddrassahs. You've elevated the debate enormously. Do you side with the creationist sheikhs or with the kafir scientists?
I do notice, however, that my question went unanswered.