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Idol Sparks New Controversy (Former Contestant from Last Season Says She Won't Watch Show)
Access Hollywood ^ | January 18, 2006 | Laura Saltman

Posted on 01/19/2007 11:01:04 AM PST by meg88

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To: gcruse

Singer from Alabama.


161 posted on 01/20/2007 6:46:33 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: UlmoLordOfWaters

Thursday - 10 PM.


162 posted on 01/20/2007 6:47:07 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: meg88
Two of the Seattle contestants--Kenneth and Jonathan--were clearly limited...

Okay, as a Seattle resident, I'm qualified to say this... the Seattle portion of the show looked like the city managers had driven through the streets, picked up all the functionally mentally ill, and dropped them off at Key Arena to audition.

No joke.

What you saw was the moonbat fringe of Seattle on display. These are the folks who ride my bus.

163 posted on 01/20/2007 6:52:02 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Temporarily Posting from Washington DC)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
It is nothing more, nothing less than a monument to the out of control self-esteem movement gone completely mad in this country. There is no doubt that there are some clearly mentally ill folks who are in this contest and the producers may not recognize that -- but the vast majority of the folks who are just awful singers have never ever been told that in their lives.

I could not agree more.

The post-rejection, on-camera crying, cursing and pouting by many of the worst audition rejects demonstrates their inability to deal with reality. Just because you may like pop music doesn't mean you can actually sing pop music. That your family and friends may praise your 'singing' means absolutely nothing.

In the real world of show biz, even mega-talented folks like the Beatles had to work in small clubs for years to qualify for a relatively limited recording contract....and they had been rejected by other record companies before that, despite their local popularity. On the stage, you often get about 30 seconds to audition and either hear: Next!, meaning you have been summarily rejected, or you are asked to step to the side and/or come back for a second - and often a third - audition. No one cares much about your self-esteem.

Big-bucks show business is just that - a business. No one of any consequence in that business - from club owners to big-time record producers are going to waste their time humoring a no-talent 'performer'. They don't have to. New York, Nashville and especially Hollywood are figuratively chock-full of multi-talented singers who write their own songs, can play an instrument and are very ambitious. Not much room left for wannabe, no-talent folks, no matter how much 'sincerity' they have.

Simon Cowell is a successful (and very wealthy) record company principle and producer. He is very savvy about pop music; about what sells - and what doesn't. In the early rounds of AI, where the 'judges' (Randy, Paula, Simon) accept or reject contestants (later, as I understand it, the 'home audience' selects that week's winners - via telephone 'voting') he is not only sarcastically rejecting wanna-be 'performers' that would, normally, never get past a security guard or receptionist at his record company but also doing them a bit of a favor by telling the really hopeless people how bad they truly are: "singing is not going to be your future" and advising the 'almost-made-it' contestants on what they need to do; "be more animated", "tone it down", "work on your delivery", etc. This is generally honest criticism, albeit delivered in a cynical manner. After all, it's entertainment, not a documentary.

I suspect, despite all the posturing by so many about how Cowell was not PC enough with a few painfully untalented contestants that were rejected, a lot of folks thought it was about time someone told these delusional self-esteem surfeited people that they had no singing talent. We can quibble over whether Cowell was too 'mean' and mocked a few of the more pathetic folks a bit too much, especially behind their back, after they had left the 'stage'. However, on balance, he was simply doing his 'job' (being the acerbic Brit) and doing a few misguided folks a favor by giving them a dose of reality and saying what many people were likely yelling at their TV set as they were (voluntarily) listening to these untalented people 'singing' off-key and/or screeching in some weird imitation of their favorite pop star: You Stink!".

164 posted on 01/20/2007 2:00:32 PM PST by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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To: wiltale

I was able to go back and catch your earlier post, and hope that things go well for you and your son.


165 posted on 01/20/2007 2:19:00 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I did not see Jonathan, who sounds very touching with the suitcase, but I caught the Unchained Melody person. At first I thought he was just acting clueless but then I wasn't so sure. For some reason I am uncomfortable with the try outs this season. Funny you should say the same thing - I have also decided to wait until they get to Hollywood to begin watching again.


166 posted on 01/20/2007 2:31:18 PM PST by A knight without armor
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This is the show's sixth year.

For long time viewers, I find the 'outrage' overdone. Simon hasn't changed that greatly since the beginning. Paula perhaps, but not him.

For new viewers, hey, if it's not their thing tune out.

Speaking for only myself I prefer from hell Week forward better then the initial audition process, but under no circumstances do I want this show P/C'd to death by people that don't seem to care at all about all the garbage leveled at Simon. When they start defending Simon, maybe I'll listen. Until then I'm content to think many people hypocrites. Willing to laugh at a beautiful blond being target of verbal attack or Simon be lambasted unfairly (it does happen) but when someone that isn't "perfect" is treated NORMALLY suddenly grow a damn conscience. In either case it isn't right, but funny how only in one instance anyone defends what is right.

Bottom line people use this show, and this show uses people. They get their fifteen minutes, and if any are good a chance at something better. The people behind the show get money. Heck, even Hung got money for marketing his bad singing into profit. And if along the way some folks that acually believe they can sing, yet can't, finally have someone tell the truth that's a GOOD thing. It would be better if the people that cared about them told them the truth, but if they won't, at least someone does.

Rather then P/C'ing the show into cancellation, the lesson that should be taken is to tell the people you care about the truth so they don't have to have a stranger lay it on the line. Especially these strangers. Because after listening to thousands of Bad singers they are NOT going to be in a particular mood to cushion the fall. And neither would I or just about anyone else. We'd be popping Ibuprofen by the bottle if subjected to the attitudes and delusion of so many of these people our after hour, day after day.


167 posted on 01/20/2007 7:59:27 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: meg88

Oh, the brunette. Dunno the name, don't really care either :)


168 posted on 01/21/2007 5:27:17 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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