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Christopher Hitchens reviews Mark Steyn's book.
City Journal ^ | Winter 2007 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 01/22/2007 11:03:41 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek

"If I wanted to sharpen both prongs of his (Steyn's) thesis, I would also propose the following:

1. An end to one-way multiculturalism and to the cultural masochism that goes with it. The Koran does not mandate the wearing of veils or genital mutilation, and until recently only those who apostasized from Islam faced the threat of punishment by death. Now, though, all manner of antisocial practices find themselves validated in the name of religion, and mullahs have begun to issue threats even against non-Muslims for criticism of Islam. This creeping Islamism must cease at once, and those responsible must feel the full weight of the law. Meanwhile, we should insist on reciprocity at all times. We should not allow a single Saudi dollar to pay for propaganda within the U.S., for example, until Saudi Arabia also permits Jewish and Christian and secular practices. No Wahhabi-printed Korans anywhere in our prison system. No Salafist imams in our armed forces."

(Excerpt) Read more at city-journal.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; hitchens; islam; steyn
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Hitchens' review is generally favorable, and he ends his review with some good ideas of his own.
1 posted on 01/22/2007 11:03:42 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

bump


2 posted on 01/22/2007 11:05:58 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: lesser_satan

I think his eight ideas at the end are certainly worth considering. I would take them and add them to an unconditional surrender view of warfare against the Islamists and we would at last have a policy.


3 posted on 01/22/2007 11:15:06 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Population bombs:

" In the thirty years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 percent to 31 percent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 percent to 44 percent. In a democratic age, you can’t buck demography—except through civil war. The Serbs figured that out—as other Continentals will in the years ahead: if you can’t outbreed the enemy, cull ’em."


4 posted on 01/22/2007 11:18:36 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Patrick1

If steps were taken to reciprocate negatively for anti-freedom acts in other countries we would be engaging in the moral equivalent of putting a tariff on ideas. It's the Smoot Hawley fast track to a depression of cultural exchange. It would end in a hairy world war.


5 posted on 01/22/2007 11:18:44 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
we should insist on reciprocity at all times

This is the opening wedge. It's a neutral principle, easily defended.

6 posted on 01/22/2007 11:21:53 AM PST by sphinx
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To: kinghorse

It's going to end in a hairy world war either way so it makes more sense to me not to simply surrender beforehand.


7 posted on 01/22/2007 11:23:15 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I had the great honor of meeting and briefly chatting with Mr. Hitchens at The Amazing Meeting 5 in Las Vegas this weekend.

At the last event - the panel Q&A - the editor of The Onion spewed out some ignorant statements about how the world hates America and we should be so diverse and accepting, I turned to my companion and said, "Watch Hitchens take this guy apart," which is exactly what happened.

It was a wondrous thing to see and hear.

BTW, when I mentioned Free Republic to Mr. Hitchens, he said that we were "good people."

Maven
8 posted on 01/22/2007 11:24:46 AM PST by Maven
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To: kinghorse

Disagree because it is clear that Islamo Fascism is a bad idea, as communism before it you don't appease it you destroy it.


9 posted on 01/22/2007 11:25:44 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: kinghorse
If steps were taken to reciprocate negatively for anti-freedom acts in other countries we would be engaging in the moral equivalent of putting a tariff on ideas.

Well, he's talking about establishment of Wahabi institutions within the US by foreign governments, and I think that it's appropriate to insist on reciprocity in these cases - if the Saudi government wants to sponsor Islamic schools or religious institutions in the US, they have to permit religious and secular organizations approved by the US government to establish in Saudi. There'd be no embargo on ideas, just on foreign governments backing their dissemination.
10 posted on 01/22/2007 11:27:22 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Patrick1

Yeah but if you outlaw it, in effect you martyr it. It becomes like an illegal drug, attractive for it's mystery. I think it gains traction if you outlaw it.


11 posted on 01/22/2007 11:29:10 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Hitchens has a tough job trying to get the left into this fight. So busy they are in trying to turn Islamo Fascism into another "right".


12 posted on 01/22/2007 11:30:02 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: kinghorse

I wouldn't outlaw it. Anymore than I would outlaw communism. I would prefer to destroy it as we have other murderous ideologies in the past.


13 posted on 01/22/2007 11:31:14 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: kinghorse

Isn't this how Christianity got traction? :) It says "I am scared of you" when you outlaw something like this. Better to constantly pound away at the bigoted double standard being practiced by muslim dominated societies. Better to expose it for it's impracticality and for being out of touch with modernity.


14 posted on 01/22/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: Patrick1

You don't outlaw cockroaches you kill them.


15 posted on 01/22/2007 11:32:05 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1

we agree. Destroy? Contain.


16 posted on 01/22/2007 11:32:26 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: Maven
BTW, when I mentioned Free Republic to Mr. Hitchens, he said that we were "good people."

How cool that you got to meet him! I love it when I finally get to meet someone whose work I've admired, and they turn out to be great in real life as well. Glad to hear Hitchens gave the Onion guy the dressing-down he deserved.

17 posted on 01/22/2007 11:33:08 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

BUMP!


18 posted on 01/22/2007 11:33:48 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: kinghorse

Containment is not destroying. You can't contain something forever, it is too costly to contain it. If it is a threat to your life you kill it.


19 posted on 01/22/2007 11:35:03 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Thanks God someone on the left "gets it."


20 posted on 01/22/2007 11:40:32 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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