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Toddler's temper ousts family from plane
Associated Press via Yahoo News ^ | January 23, 2007 | Jim Ellis

Posted on 01/23/2007 10:25:48 AM PST by presidio9

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To: from occupied ga

Ewww! That's some nerve.

There's a lot of in your face parenting out there these days. It's one of my hot buttons. BTW, there's another active thread on this incident today and the article there says the parents bought three seats, two in one row and one in another, and then were trying to PUT THE CHILD IN THE SEAT AWAY FROM THEM!

The audacity! They know they've created a little monster so they were going to sit away from her and make her someone else's problem!


181 posted on 01/24/2007 7:31:13 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet
Ewww! That's some nerve.

I forgot to say that this was at Cornell University in the City of Evil, so the odds are she was a flaming liberal even back then (late 60's) This is typical of liberals "It's all about me" attitude.

The audacity! They know they've created a little monster so they were going to sit away from her and make her someone else's problem

Some A lot of people apparently think that parenting ends at intercourse, and that once you've completed the biological act that your responsibility ends.

Another horrible example. A divorced guy I used to work with had a 17 yo son. He remarried and the new wife didn't like the son, so they threw him out. He was living on the street for a couple of years, and then died - not sure exactly how - drug overdose or hit by a car while drunk. I heard both versions. I heard that the stepmother didn't even attend the funeral. Point being that some people have absolutly no sense of what it means to be a parent and shouldn't reproduce.

182 posted on 01/24/2007 7:45:55 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: LadyNavyVet
the parents bought three seats, two in one row and one in another

Do you have a link to the other thread? I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the threads on this incident.

Maybe someone can consolidate?

183 posted on 01/24/2007 7:50:24 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Since I didn't in any way attack you, I assume you pinged me to the other links you provided on this story. While admittedly not taking the time to read every one of them, it sounds like much of the rhetoric in the accounts is based either on the parents version (they are grievanced about the situation and brings their objectivity into some question) and perhaps the journalists prejudice as well.

For instance whose assessment is this, displayed the raw tact and diplomacy of Donald Trump?? The parents? Other passengers? Or the authors? Because it isn't sourced my bet is on the latter.

Regardless, the airline made a decision they felt they had to make and offered substantial monetary compensation. Every minute of delay was costing them a LOT of money. I support their decision.

184 posted on 01/24/2007 8:05:28 AM PST by prairiebreeze (I support the troops AND THE MISSION. I do not support Clintoons, RINOS or RATS.)
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To: presidio9

As the parent of two children with Autism, I am appalled and shocked at the responses I read here. Putting young children in situations that are potentially scary and unfamiliar can be difficult for a small child. They do not understand what is going on and it can take time to settle them down. When I read of chidren screaming out of control for hours-long flights, this is not what I am referring to. However, the comments about the parents "being able to control the child" well sometimes we are not always in control of our emotions as adults so certainly children are going to act up in unfamiliar situations.

What is really sad is reading such nasty and hateful commentary from people. It really disgusts me that people are so cruel and self-righteous that they are so innocent and therefore can cast the first stone.

Thankfully, we don't fly anywhere and choose to take our children by car if we ever do get the opportunity. I have enough of uneducated and unsympathetic people when trying to shop or bank with people like the ones who post their opinions at places like this. What ever happened to compassion, understanding and concern for your fellow man?


185 posted on 01/24/2007 11:09:18 AM PST by Webmommy
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To: CatoRenasci

"...for crying out loud,..."

That was the cause of the delay.


186 posted on 01/24/2007 11:13:19 AM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: NCC-1701

You noticed. First one who did!


187 posted on 01/24/2007 11:20:45 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I've worked as a nanny. I also helped care for my sister's small children when she had a prolonged hospital stay. I've dealt with tired, cranky toddlers and yes, it can be difficult. That being said, I fully support the airline's actions. Yes, you have to cut parents some slack if something like this happens in a supermarket or other public place, but others can step away in a public place without too much disruption. This child's tantrum caused the delay of an airline flight for crying out loud. How long were the other passengers supposed to wait? An hour? Two hours? Should other flights have been delayed because these parents wouldn't pick up the child, belt her in and yes--hold her down by her shoulders if necessary? If the child's so unruly she can't be extricated from underneath a seat, she shouldn't have been on a plane in the first place. These parents must think the world revolves around them because they have a small child. I have a news bulletin for them: it doesn't. I guarantee they'll end up with a mouthy, surly, spoiled brat in another ten years who thinks the world revolves around her. I can remember taking my sister's four year old out of a restaurant (when I desperately wanted to relax and enjoy dinner) because she refused to calm down and was throwing a screaming tantrum hissy fit. Yes, I felt lousy. Yes, I had to fight to control my temper but you know what? It was my niece, in my temporary guardianship. It was my problem, not the other patrons' problem. Why should they have to put up with someone else's child screaming? You wouldn't put up with an adult ruining your dinner like that. Bravo to the airline.
188 posted on 01/25/2007 1:49:48 AM PST by galveston
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