[beyond the sea]

GWB doesn't get to set his own policies on this nor on a lot of other issues that directly impact the Powers That Be. I think the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan was the catalyst - it scared the hell out the elites, and they vowed to make sure that no incompetent Carter or activist Reagan ever got elected again, and that whoever did get elected towed the mark on issues important to those elites.

I was looking at your page.............. excellent.

Some people say the Illuminati, the funny Bohemian Grove characters, etc. ............ are all fiction. I don't think so.

Your Heinlein's, "One man’s 'magic' is another man’s engineering" sort of tells me that the "elite" are pretty great engineers themselves, for most of the citizens say they are nonexistent.

LOL.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Some people say the Illuminati, the funny Bohemian Grove characters, etc. ............ are all fiction. I don't think so.

Well, to me just look around at America. The giant engineering works, the massive defense infrastructure, the huge economic near-monopolies (true monopolies are unnecessarily difficult to maintain)...

...and the people in charge of those structures are going to leave the choice of their Chief Executive up to a gaggle of idiots with third grade reading levels? ;)

It's easy to reason that they would instead have worked out ways to ensure that their agenda gets met regardless of which puppet the American Idol voters put in the Oval Office.

[Sam Hill]

"Some people say the Illuminati, the funny Bohemian Grove characters, etc. ............ are all fiction. I don't think so."

You are a nut job.