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Charlie Sheen's Toxic Humor on CBS
Media Monitor ^ | 1/24/2007 | Andy Selepak

Posted on 01/24/2007 9:01:00 AM PST by Mike Bates

Television has always pushed the envelope and often past the point of bad taste, but Monday night's episode of Two and a Half Men did not just push the envelope, it ripped the envelope in half. Then, CBS burned and threw it in the trash, where this show truly belongs.

The show began with one of the title characters, the Half Man, 13-year-old Angus T. Jones, asking Charlie Sheen and Jon Cryer if you have to be smart to have sex. This is prompted by his comment that he sometimes hears his on-screen mother and her boyfriend having sex.

The discussion went downhill from there, as Sheen and Cryer spoke openly about sex in front of Jones, all in the name of generating laughs. This is nothing new for the show, as one of the running story lines is sex, sex, and more sex. But Monday night's show took it even further.

Later in the episode and thankfully in a scene that did not involve the 13-year-old Jones, the show descended into discussions of Cryer's character as a boy having sex with fruit, urinating into a Tang container, and using his on-screen mother's feminine-hygiene product as a breathing device, convinced by Sheen's character this was how the astronauts do it. More indecent comments are made, which will not be detailed here.

SNIP

That Charlie Sheen, son of liberal icon actor Martin Sheen, would be involved in such a perverted show is not surprising. He has been linked in press reports to a series of morally objectionable behaviors, ranging from consorting with prostitutes, to drug and alcohol abuse, gambling problems, child pornography allegations, and alleged wife abuse.

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And, yes, I know that viewers can always change the channel. This is posted as a reflection of where we're going in entertainment.
1 posted on 01/24/2007 9:01:02 AM PST by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

Charlie Sheen and humor should never be used in the same sentence without a negative in between.

On the other hand Charlie himself is a joke of Biblical proportions.


2 posted on 01/24/2007 9:02:57 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: Mike Bates

SeeBS Network
just what you would expect


3 posted on 01/24/2007 9:03:52 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Mike Bates

I got a new Women's Wear Daily today. It's now called "W."

If you can stand it, check out the current issue. There's much to be said of the 'demystification of the human form' - that's about as nicely as I can say it.


4 posted on 01/24/2007 9:03:54 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Mike Bates

Trash is trash regardless of the covering.


5 posted on 01/24/2007 9:03:55 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Mike Bates

It's one of the few sitcoms we enjoy on a regular basis.


6 posted on 01/24/2007 9:05:28 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mike Bates
After the discourse of the past few weeks, you should know that "24" is the only show in the history of television that has been able to influence the way people think, and it causes people to hate muslims. All other shows are entertainment only and have absolutely no effect on perceptions of reality.

< /sarcasm>

7 posted on 01/24/2007 9:05:32 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: Mike Bates

Generally, the only time I ever run into a sitcom is when I'm somewhere like a hospital waiting room or an airport. Not sure what shows I've actually seen parts of, but they are certainly disgusting. I can't imagine how anyone can stand watching most TV at all.


8 posted on 01/24/2007 9:06:03 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mike Bates

Ever heard of 'Fatty' Arbuckle and Errol Flynn?...Yes, I know they were blackballed, but this has been going on forever....


9 posted on 01/24/2007 9:06:39 AM PST by dakine
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To: Mike Bates
Charlie Sheen looks as thin as a crack-head.

Maybe that had something to do with Denise divorcing him?

10 posted on 01/24/2007 9:07:15 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Mike Bates

It's not unusual for me to gasp out the overt sexuality in some shows these days. We're getting used to it. But that show, for adults, was pretty funny. It should be on later in the evening, IMO.


11 posted on 01/24/2007 9:07:21 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: stm
On the other hand Charlie himself is a joke of Biblical proportions.

Why does Charlie Sheen get a pass for his nutty theories about 9/11?
12 posted on 01/24/2007 9:07:29 AM PST by jtal
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To: Mike Bates
This is posted as a reflection of where we're going in entertainment.

"Entertainment"? When you stop using the terms liberals assign and start calling things what they are such as "mind control", "secular progressive propaganda", them maybe we will see more clearly what is going on.

13 posted on 01/24/2007 9:07:33 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: TexasCajun

Why blame Charlie Sheen...he's just reading lines that are given to him...he's not the writer.


14 posted on 01/24/2007 9:07:49 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: lilylangtree

People don't have to watch. But it is unfortunate this kind of thing is just coarsening our culture and dragging down standards across the board. It's no wonder many Americans don't have the nerve or good sense to see other threats to our well being.


15 posted on 01/24/2007 9:08:03 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: Froufrou

Women's Wear Daily is not now called "W". "W" is a monthly publication by WWD. WWD is a daily trade publication that is put out daily as its name suggests.


16 posted on 01/24/2007 9:09:43 AM PST by all the best
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To: jtal
Perhaps because people that are not hard of thinking dismiss him as nothing more than a village idiot. Like father like sons.
17 posted on 01/24/2007 9:10:28 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: Mike Bates

I'll disagree with this article here. And I'm a very conservative woman. My husband and I have watched this show several times, and the kid carries the show. It is quite hilarious most episodes, but sexuality is a strong undertone. But if you're watching a TV show that stars Charlie Sheen, what do you expect? That it will be about knitting or library books? CBS knew what it was getting with Sheen, and any viewer should know this too. And no, I'm not a Sheen fan.

I would not let a child watch this show, but it does come on at 9:00 most places - well after kids should be in bed away from the TV. I don't like smut or trash, and I turn the channel if something offends me. This article makes the show sound a lot worse than it actually is.


18 posted on 01/24/2007 9:11:02 AM PST by AUJenn
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To: all the best; TNCMAXQ

I would like nothing better than to think the original is still out there, but I've been unable to find for so long that I can't remember the last time I found one.


19 posted on 01/24/2007 9:13:44 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: dakine
Ever heard of 'Fatty' Arbuckle and Errol Flynn?...Yes, I know they were blackballed, but this has been going on forever....

But not televised. BTW, Mr. Flynn was found not guilty in the rape trial.

20 posted on 01/24/2007 9:14:37 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: AUJenn
Cute kid, very good actor.
...just hope he doesn't turn into an Alec Baldwin later in life.


21 posted on 01/24/2007 9:15:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: stuartcr

I avoid watching sitcoms, but my wife claims it is a very very funny show. I'm afraid I find most of these outraged assaults on the content of TV shows really tiresome: I also think Charlie Sheen leaves a lot to be desired as a person, and an "intellect" but railing against a show on these grounds leads some to think people on "the right" are really the ones who want to shut people up. We know how much more that's a characteristic of people like Charlie Sheen. So let's allow these people to be the ones to mouth off about what THEY want to be censored, and let's not give them the satisfaction of playing that game.


22 posted on 01/24/2007 9:16:14 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: AUJenn
I don't like smut or trash. . .

But you like this show. OK.

23 posted on 01/24/2007 9:17:27 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: dakine
Ever heard of 'Fatty' Arbuckle and Errol Flynn?...Yes, I know they were blackballed, but this has been going on forever....

Yes, but those two, and Hollywood of the past generally, kept such exploits behind closed doors. They didn't try to sell depictions of them to the public at large.

24 posted on 01/24/2007 9:17:55 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Mike Bates

I am so glad I dont watch all that much network TV.


25 posted on 01/24/2007 9:19:29 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: supremedoctrine

I have no idea what kind of a person he is, as I do not know him, but my wife and I agree that it's a very funny show, and we enjoy entertainment that makes us laugh.


26 posted on 01/24/2007 9:20:12 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mike Bates
I hardly watch TV programming anymore, the only thing I watch is Home and Garden and the Food Channel. I will watch the News if the President is speaking. I do like Celebrity Dancing. That is it, the rest of it , is pretty much trash.

If you do not watch TV and should just happen to spot an episode occassionally of Charlie Sheen in 2 and half men....you are totally disgusted by their crude, and demeaning behavior and wonder why that show is even on the air.

27 posted on 01/24/2007 9:20:17 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: Mike Bates

yikes. I watched this show once, 'cause of its "great" ratings and all the hoopla and whatnot about how "hilarious" it is, but was totally offended at the "jokes" (which all revolved around sex and the awkwardness of discussing sex around a young boy).

I didn't find it funny and I'm no prude. I found it just awful and icky. Never watched it again. I'm not really surprised to hear about this show lowering its already low bar. If I were an advertiser, I sure wouldn't advertise on that show...unless my "product" was a phone sex line, or I was a media planner for the DNC.


28 posted on 01/24/2007 9:20:18 AM PST by fleagle
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To: Mike Bates

THAT's why the jihadists hate us....


29 posted on 01/24/2007 9:20:38 AM PST by expatpat
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To: TexasCajun

What makes you even think he will? Are you a friend of the family?


30 posted on 01/24/2007 9:21:40 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mike Bates
I was used to watching a comedy in this time slot, because 'Everybody Loves Raymond' was so good, and I found that laughter was a good way to start the week.

But this show has been slipping further into the muck with each episode. I've switched to '24' and it's a far better show, with a much more talented cast.

31 posted on 01/24/2007 9:21:41 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Mike Bates

And AIM is just realizing this? They are about 15 years too late to realize what the rest of the country already knew. Charlie Sheen has ALWAYS been into hookers. He was a client of Heidi Fliess's who ran a huge hooker business in L.A. The guy had a dancer's pole installed in his place in Malibu.


32 posted on 01/24/2007 9:21:58 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: expatpat

They hate us because of Charlie Sheen?


33 posted on 01/24/2007 9:23:02 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Mike Bates; AUJenn

I'd say the timing is really critical right now. The Dakota Fanning movie "Houndog" has already upset many, many people.

I don't think it's really about whether children WATCH this kind of thing or not. There are children acting the parts, and the message is the same to them as it is to the adults who watch it. That [the smut's] O-K.

NAMBLA agenda? No doubt about it.


34 posted on 01/24/2007 9:23:02 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: expatpat
THAT's why the jihadists hate us....

You know, I've always wondered why that was. . .

35 posted on 01/24/2007 9:23:15 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

"the only thing I watch is Home and Garden and the Food Channel."

ok, so we've established that you like house porn and food porn. ;)


36 posted on 01/24/2007 9:23:44 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Mike Bates

Definitely must-miss TV. During one of the football games on Sunday, they had a promo for some show "How I Met Your Mother". During this promo, played during the afternoon, the network played a clip where the characters used the words "sword" and "sheath" as euphenisms for male and female anatomy. Another character made the claim that his "wouldn't fit". They then showed the cast of the show, supposedly nude, with a banner displaying the title of the show across their bodies.

Ok. Play that crap at night, but not during the game, when folks have their kids watching.


37 posted on 01/24/2007 9:24:18 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
And AIM is just realizing this?

Don't think this is the first time they've commented on such programming.

38 posted on 01/24/2007 9:24:20 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: AUJenn
"My husband and I have watched this show several times....I don't like smut or trash, and I turn the channel if something offends me."

Sooo, you're obviously not easily offended then.
I've seen trailers for this during other shows - it reminded me of Junior High School boys' bathroon humor.
Each to his own, but don't try to pass yourself off as "conservative" or sophisticated while saying you enjoy this junk......

39 posted on 01/24/2007 9:25:15 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Mike Bates; expatpat

They hate us because of Charlie Sheen! They detest his greasy good looks and 1980s sardonic wit.


40 posted on 01/24/2007 9:25:22 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: supremedoctrine
supremedoctrine wrote: I also think Charlie Sheen leaves a lot to be desired as a person, and an "intellect" but railing against a show on these grounds leads some to think people on "the right" are really the ones who want to shut people up.

CBS obviously can put trash on their network if they want too. But I can voice my opinion on what kind of low down gutter trash they are putting on TV. And I do not have to watch, and I don't have to encourage anyone else to watch. I guess if you are use to watching trash , it wouldn't alarm you.

41 posted on 01/24/2007 9:25:25 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: stuartcr
What makes you even think he will?

He will no doubt be influenced by Hollywood/New York liberals who work, act and control the industry he is in.

I have no idea about his parents ideology, do you?

42 posted on 01/24/2007 9:25:32 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: RabidBartender

Yeah, save football time for beer commercials with busty babes, as God intended.


43 posted on 01/24/2007 9:26:15 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: A Citizen Reporter

"I was used to watching a comedy in this time slot, because 'Everybody Loves Raymond' was so good, and I found that laughter was a good way to start the week.
But this show has been slipping further into the muck with each episode."

So I take it you didn't see the "Raymond" episode where his mother creates a sculpture that greatly resembles the female sex organ and then tries to donate it to a Catholic charity.

30 minutes of a giant stone vagina on the screen.


44 posted on 01/24/2007 9:26:44 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: linda_22003
Yeah, save football time for beer commercials with busty babes, as God intended.

And twins. Don't forget about the twins.

45 posted on 01/24/2007 9:27:19 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: fleagle
fleagle wrote: If I were an advertiser, I sure wouldn't advertise on that show...unless my "product" was a phone sex line, or I was a media planner for the DNC.

Kudos on a great observation.

46 posted on 01/24/2007 9:28:00 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: Mike Bates
This is nothing new for the show, as one of the running story lines is sex, sex, and more sex.

When one of the top rated shows is Doctors Banging.......I mean...Grey's Anatomy....others will emulate the formula.

47 posted on 01/24/2007 9:29:33 AM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: TexasCajun

I don't even know his name, I just enjoy the show.


48 posted on 01/24/2007 9:29:37 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Mike Bates

Here's an idea: suggest to the censors in Congress that we'll accept 'equal time' restrictions on the radio if they'll accept it on the TV.


49 posted on 01/24/2007 9:29:50 AM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: linda_22003
Oops, think I may have violated a rule here.

50 posted on 01/24/2007 9:30:06 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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