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I used to work for the Corps of Engineers, Mississippi Valley Division headquartered in Vicksburg, MS. They oversee all the MS River districts, including New Orleans.

Between 2000 and 2004, I personally saw the New Orleans District formally request levee money on three different occasions. I was in the Video teleconferences between the N.O District and the Division when it happened each time. I saw it with my own eyes. I also saw state reps and Congressional panels shoot down these requests from the Division. The money went to wildlife preservation, habitat expansion and pet projects for levee board members who stood to gain financially.

When the levees did top and break, it was my friends from the Corps who were some of the first to be in the nasty and risk life and limb to do anything they could. They WERE shot at, many things WERE thrown at them, residents WERE trying to steal their boats. When I see PC bound morons who don't have 2 brain cells to rub together come on here and start spouting senseless conspiracy crap, I get pretty miffed. Same with the people who come on here and take the media's word that their reporting was not accurate. It WAS accurate, it just made blacks look bad and they recanted because they were afraid it would affect donations for white America to see the looters and hear of the violence. My insurance agent went down a few days after it calmed down a bit. In all three properties he went to see, there were bodies inside with bullet wounds.

That is just the truth.

A category 1 "regular storm"??? That is the most insulting BS I have read about this hurricane. It was a cat 1 when it hit my house almost 250 miles up-river. It did so much damage to my town, some people didn't have power for weeks and some are STILL getting roofs and fences fixed.

You can take your "conspiracy theory" drivel and shove it.

Ok, so what I learned in your lengthy post/rant is that a)you used to work for Corps of Engineers, b) that the New Orleans District had requests for levee money shot down and that there was lots of corruption going around, c) your friends faced some very nasty stuff after New Orleans was flooded, d) you don't agree that it was a Cat 1 storm and e) you think that a 'conspiracy theory' should be shoved somewhere.... but that conspiracy hasn't even been defined, has it? What exactly is the 'conspiracy' that you think is being hinted at here? In fact, the position taken by the link in post 26 would appear to support your position concerning levee money, no? With regards to how strong a hurricane Katrina was, it is fairly well acknowledged that Katrina was Category 3 when it made landfall and most of New Orleans experienced Category 1 or 2 strength winds. You can argue this if you want but not with me... go and argue with the meteorologists. The rest of your post was well.... just a rant that made me wonder whether you even bothered to read and digest the issue raised.

What I did not see was a) any technical arguments that refuted the link originally provided in Post 26, b) an answer to the question posed in my last post to you of 'what do your Corps of Engineers friends tell you was the exact mechanism that caused New Orleans to be flooded out?' This is the question on the table.... what did you see in the link that you believe is untrue? Good grief... this is not that hard. All that whizbang was suggesting in the link was that the levees were in such poor condition already that there likely would have been a major break even without Katrina... in a sense, Katrina was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Are you saying that everything was just hunky dory with the levees? That they were in good shape but simply overwhelmed by the massiveness of the storm? Or are you saying that they were in poor shape? Or in poor shape AND overwhelmed by the massiveness of the storm?