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Fighting Under World War II Rules
A Publius Essay | 24 January 2007 | Publius

Posted on 01/24/2007 3:34:31 PM PST by Publius

The United States Constitution does not recognize War and War Lite, only that a state of war exists. Traditionally the US has used two different instruments for declaring war. When dealing with a sovereign nation the policy was to use a declaration of war, and it was removed from the books in the treaty that ended the war. When dealing with a non-sovereign, like the Barbary pirates or al-Quaeda, the policy was to use a congressional resolution authorizing the use of force. That these resolutions were not removed from the books after the non-sovereign was defeated is simply a matter of legislative sloppiness, and nothing further should be read into it.

While a declaration of war and a resolution authorizing the use of force are two different instruments of war, they carry the same constitutional weight. However, they do not carry the same political weight.

Fighting World War II at Home

Once Congress declared war Americans banded together to fight the common enemy. Dissent was crushed or severely chastised. Two years before America became involved in the war, the British and Canadians were already fighting, and many Americans took the train across the border to enlist in the Royal Canadian Air Force. (This is a far cry from those Americans who crossed to Canada during the Vietnam debacle.)

After Pearl Harbor, America launched its first full military mobilization since 1917. The draft had been reinstated a year earlier, and now American males received letters that began, “Greetings from the President.” Few thought of evading the draft, and huge crowds of angry men mobbed recruiting centers to enlist. There were no voices calling the attack “a law enforcement problem”. There were no voices saying that America had brought the attack upon itself because of some flaw in its makeup or policies. There were few who said that such an attack was not sufficient reason for war. Although there had been a vibrant antiwar movement before Pearl Harbor, no antiwar demonstrators ever took to the streets, and if they had, an angry mob would have lynched them before the police could have arrested them. With the declaration of war America operated under “World War II Rules”.

World War II Rules permitted a unified approach to war by a cohesive society. It was how America fought and won.

And Then It All Went Wrong

In 1959 Dr. Henry Kissinger of Harvard wrote an article in Foreign Affairs, “The Twilight Struggle”, that revolutionized American foreign policy. Kissinger argued that the stakes of nuclear war had become so unacceptably high that the conflict between America and the Soviet Union would be fought in the Third World in the form of “wars of liberation.” To compete in this arena would require Americans to fight long-term limited wars in obscure parts of the globe. Kissinger did not suggest using American ground forces but favored supporting pro-American governments in this effort.

The initial American involvement in Vietnam was a congressionally authorized deployment of American forces as military advisors to the government of South Vietnam, and the deployment was multinational, supported by such nations as Australia and South Korea. US Army Colonel John Paul Vann arrived and saw a nation of Vietnamese-speaking Buddhists governed by an elite group of French-speaking Catholics. He saw a president of South Vietnam who was ascetic to the point of being a holy man but who was not strong enough to prevent his family from stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down. What disturbed Vann most was the unwillingness of South Vietnam’s army to fight and the unwillingness of the country’s president to make it fight.

Success in the military does not come from delivering bad news to one’s superiors. Vann met with Lyndon Johnson in 1964, gave him the bad news, but offered him a way out – sending American ground forces to take over the fighting.

Following a questionable incident at the Gulf of Tonkin, Johnson procured a further congressional authorization to send ground troops to South Vietnam and wage aerial war on North Vietnam. A declaration of war was rejected because of the multinational nature of the initial effort and the fear of Soviet and Chinese reaction to such a declaration on one of their client states.

But there was another – unstated – reason directly tied to Kissinger’s theory. As experienced in World War II, a declaration of war would lead to strong passions on the part of the American people. Should a crisis erupt in Vietnam that escalated tensions with the Soviet Union or China, political passions might make it impossible for an American president to back down. Great powers do not like to lose face. The loss of room for maneuver could easily turn a limited war into a nuclear war; thus Vietnam had to be a passionless war.

Without a declaration of war there was no political consensus to permit the US to fight under World War II Rules. In 1965 when Johnson spoke in El Paso, he witnessed his first antiwar demonstration, where police roughed up the demonstrators and then arrested them for disorderly conduct. This was what one would have expected under World War II Rules, but it was not to last.

As the passionless war drifted on, public resistance stiffened. Some felt that Vietnam – without our interference – would eventually evolve to look something like Sweden, a point espoused by Frances Fitzgerald in her book, Fire in the Lake. Others who were pro-Communist rooted for an American defeat. Still others felt this latest chapter in the Cold War was a policy mistake. But most simply did not want to be drafted to fight a limited war when the American homeland was not threatened.

America now found itself fighting under Vietnam Rules. And it lost.

The War Against Radical Islam

September 11, 2001 changed everything. American popular passions had been aroused, and George Walker Bush issued an ultimatum to the world: “You are either with us or against us.” But there was no declaration of war.

Some argued that al-Qaeda was not a sovereign entity. But intelligence had long shown that many sovereign nations had been involved, directly or peripherally. Afghanistan had provided al-Qaeda with a base of operations, Pakistan’s intelligence forces had provided tactical support, and Saudi Arabia had provided financial support as a way of paying al-Qaeda to leave it alone. The fingerprints of many Islamic nations were all over 9/11.

However, a declaration of war would have galvanized opposition throughout the entire Islamic world, and the US would not been able to take on all enemies at once with conventional forces. A nuclear response and a massive mobilization via a military draft would have been the only way to end the threat quickly. But the first use of nuclear weapons would have galvanized opposition from the entire world and turned America into an international pariah.

The chosen approach had echoes of Vietnam, Desert Storm and World War II. One limited war after another would be fought in a controlled fashion and under the umbrella of the UN whenever possible. The idea was not to escalate piecemeal as in Vietnam, but to go in quickly with overwhelming force, crush the enemy’s military, conquer him – and then rebuild him as America had rebuilt Germany and Japan after World War II. But nation building turned out to be a difficult proposition when the enemy government did not officially surrender, the enemy populace did not acknowledge it had been defeated, and the enemy culture was hard, rocky ground in which to sow the seeds of democracy.

In Afghanistan a coalition of nations worked with the US under UN approval to remove the Taliban from power. But the war in Iraq proved to be more problematic, as EU nations opposed the effort. Some EU nations wanted to preserve the lucrative business arrangements they had with Iraq, and others wanted an Iraq with weapons of mass destruction to function as a counterweight to keep a nuclear Israel under control. The same nations oppose American action against Iran because Iran has now assumed the counterweight function.

Fighting Again Under World War II Rules

As the Iraq adventure began to go sour, the political unity that had existed in the days immediately following 9/11 evaporated, and America found itself once more fighting under Vietnam Rules. (When you see bumper stickers that read, “Peace is Patriotic”, you know you are fighting under Vietnam Rules.) Were America operating under World War II Rules today, things would be very different.

Next Stop, Iran?

As war clouds gather over Iran, it is important to correctly evaluate the enemy. Iran has an army and a religious police force that is absolutely motivated by religion and absolutely ruthless in execution. Their Hezbollah surrogates will not hesitate to strike the American homeland if possible. For this nation to fight effectively and win may eventually require the use of unconventional weaponry, something that will horrify most of the world, bring on the condemnation of the United Nations and push the American Left to the point of open revolt. For political purposes, a declaration of war may be necessary to draw those lines beyond which dissent dare not cross and to make clear to the world America’s resolve.

While it may make no legal difference as to which instrument the nation uses to go to war, there are political differences, and there must be ground rules. Today, unfortunately, America is operating under Vietnam Rules. Unless this changes, defeat becomes inevitable.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iran; iraq; liberalism; publiusessay; war; ww2rules
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To: TheBattman
I would be more than willing to go through the rationing, the speed limit restrictions, the hard times in general if it meant that we would be rid of the Islamic threat to our way of life. Sometimes sacrifice is necessary to win a real victory. Our current warfare pattern is not a recipie for true and long-term victory.

I agree. Small price to pay compared to what those before us have paid...
81 posted on 05/10/2007 11:43:07 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: Publius
Certain congressmen and senators would be expelled from Congress.

This can't possibly happen soon enough.
82 posted on 05/10/2007 12:11:07 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: JamesP81
If you click on my name, you'll see I served as an officer 35 years ago. The equipment I was trained on was purged from the inventory back in the Eighties -- and I'm 30 pounds heavier -- but if they needed my skill set and I could help, I'd happily give a hand.

If we found ourselves fighting homegrown jihadists while our soldiers were abroad, and if we established something like Britain's World War II era Home Guard, I'd happily trot on down to the nearest armory and volunteer. They may need people with officer experience.

As far as wars being fought too rapidly, we fell into that trap in Iraq. The shock-and-awe campaign was brilliant, but the troops were needed to handle an occupation. If we reinstate conscription, we'll be training people to occupy just as much as to sieze ground.

83 posted on 05/10/2007 3:55:30 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: Publius
Yet on May 4, 2007, Rasmussen Reports reported...

Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.

Could an enormous propaganda campaign possibly convince these kooks? I seriously doubt it. They would probably have to be sent to internment camps with the Muslims.

84 posted on 05/19/2007 8:05:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
America now found itself fighting under Vietnam Rules. And it lost.

We won in 1973 before we lost in 1975. Then we won again in 2003 before we lost in 200X.

85 posted on 05/19/2007 8:07:03 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That 35% also believes that the president stole the election of 2000 in Florida and the election of 2004 in Ohio. They will tell you that we are being governed by Halliburton and Big Oil.

If we were perceived as winning the war -- or if there were an obvious and unified national will to win the war -- then I doubt that 35% would give that answer. Further, in that case I doubt that any reputable polling firm would dare ask that question.

86 posted on 05/19/2007 8:14:42 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: Publius
A declaration of war would be on the books, not so much for constitutional reasons but for political reasons.
The word “sacrifice” would be heard on a daily basis, and Americans would be willing to live with fewer government programs, to include reduced entitlements.

- SNIP _


Certain congressmen and senators would be expelled from Congress.

These things will only happen under a Leftist Presidency.

87 posted on 09/23/2007 6:36:27 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge

I’m not sure what you mean, Sarge. Why would these things only happen under a leftist presidency?


88 posted on 09/23/2007 6:38:46 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: Publius

Because a Leftist Presidency would get the unequivocal and unanimous backing of the press, the campuses, and the majority of the American people - after all, they are the majority now.

There is no way you can convince me that a non-Socialist President could ever pull this off, even if American cities were reduced to radioactive piles the day before.

Appeals to American unity would be derided as reactionary right-wing extremist jingoism.

The victim industry would shriek how the attacks were our own fault.

Or better still, how they were American weapons fired by stealth bombers (LIHOP/MIHOP).

And the sheep will believe.

I no longer have faith or trust in the Americna people. They have proven they are willing to leave their soldeirs twisting in the wind. I am sorry I ever went to Iraq. These people don’t deserve my protection.


89 posted on 09/23/2007 6:45:14 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Publius

Bttt!


90 posted on 09/23/2007 7:28:25 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: KurtZ
Unless there was another catastrophic attack on the US with a nation openly declaring war on us, these "WW2" rules would never fly.

IF 911 wasn't enough to change the hearts and minds of our nation's citizens, with the open declaration of war on the US by Al Qaeda, I seriously doubt another attack [or one after that] would change things.

91 posted on 09/23/2007 7:53:32 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: laurenmarlowe

Ping.


92 posted on 09/30/2019 12:05:43 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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