[Zeroisanumber]

Whatever. America already had it's Horatio in the person of Abraham Lincoln, and it's Cincinnatus in the person of George Washington. While Bush is a good man, he is not as good as either of those two luminaries.

If there's any potential Horatio in this fight it's Gen. Petraeus, who, dispite the woeful mismanagement of the war in Iraq by his predecessors and superiors, looks like he might have the stones to pull this one out of the fire. And if he does, then we might be able to say that we have a leader that we don't deserve.

I'm also getting very tired of people hyping Iraq's importance to the US as a whole. Iraq is not Rome, Iraq is not Washington D.C., Iraq is not New York City. Failing there, we can and will fight elsewhere.

[Miss Marple]

Iraq ISN'T Washington, D.C., and that's the point! Yes, if we leave Iraq, we will fight them elsewhere. Wouldn't you really rather fight them there and be done with it, or would you rather they show up somewhere else, perhaps somewhere in Europe?