Giuliani a tough conservative sell

AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/07 | Liz Sidoti - ap

[BunnySlippers]

How about violence against anybody?

[PzLdr]

In your mind, indeed.

[TitansAFC]

---"smile - that pandering hurt us in 2006, imo. Hopefully we can mature, as a party, beyond such small-mindedness. Or if not that, at least a move few paces forward"---

Umm....you had the party purified of anything SoCon - remember? It led to fillibuster-proof minorities.

[BigSkyFreeper]

The Culture warriors went belly up during the midterms and the Traditionalists have taken the wheel.

That remains to be seen. We lost a few traditionalists in the midterms.

[TitansAFC]

---"How about violence against anybody?"--

Not our business - can't legislate morality. Just cut their taxes.

[Sunsong]

It's tiresome. Stuck in blue states and demanding others vote their way. Fix their own respective states.

LOL - that is such a good point. My guess is that these folks are not persuasive - and that's why they want to skip local and state government and jump right into dictating to a national party -"do what I say or else"(s)

[onyx]

Violent behavior is criminal. Stop playing games.

[PhiKapMom]

The GOP is going back to its Conservative roots and not pandering to the social conservatives who were not part of the original Conservative movement. Why don't you read the history of the Conservative movement in the 60's? I was a teenager who walked doors for Goldwater.

Wherever you got the notion that social conservatives started the Conservative movement, you did not get the truth. Barry Goldwater was NOT a social conservative.

[freedomfiter2]

smile - that pandering hurt us in 2006, imo. Hopefully we can mature, as a party, beyond such small-mindedness. Or if not that, at least a move few paces forward(s)


If you call the 30 years as a minority party moving forward, mature away.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Not our business - can't legislate morality. Just cut their taxes.

Violence against anybody is not what I would call "morality". It's not even borderline "immorality", it's criminal behavior.

[IslandJeff]

how deeply offensive abortion is to so many of us

Read you loud and clear, FRiend - but that football is currently under the purview of the judiciary, not the Executive or Legislative branch, courtesy of the outrageous judicial overreach of R v W.

So (assuming you intended to impugn Giuliani), one cannot differentiate between executing the responsibilities as mayor of NYC versus Federal jurisdiction, with Constitution to uphold?

Would you rather have a Democrat nominating USSC justices, with two leftists about to kick the bucket?

[freedomfiter2]

Violent behavior is criminal. Stop playing games.

Only because it is legislated as such.

[onyx]

Stuck in SOLID blue states where their votes don't matter.

[BunnySlippers]

So when did social conservatives get a strangle hold on the party?

[PhiKapMom]

Which proves the point we have been saying. They cannot be counted on to vote for the Republican candidate because he has to meet their qualifications 100%. But yet they will help a Dem who they disagree with almost 100% get in office. I am missing something in that equation.

[onyx]

Your point is?

[TitansAFC]

---"It's tiresome. Stuck in blue states and demanding others vote their way. Fix their own respective states.
LOL - that is such a good point. My guess is that these folks are not persuasive - and that's why they want to skip local and state government and jump right into dictating to a national party -"do what I say or else"(s)"---

Seriously, are you guys twelve? If not, why aren't these private e-mails?

Why is it every Rudy backer spends their time savaging dissenters? Is this really what we're suppose to just accept for the good of the country - your issues don't matter and we're going to insult you if you suggest they do?

[afnamvet]

I am curious as to the term "culture warrior" . Could either of you define for me please? Thanks in advance.

[Sunsong]

Umm....you had the party purified of anything SoCon - remember? It led to fillibuster-proof minorities.

What? What are you talking about?

[Sunsong]

What are you talking about?