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Giuliani's Wife Takes High Profile
NewsMax ^ | 1/28/07 | NewsMax

Posted on 01/28/2007 12:49:30 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: jimbo123

Maybe we should dig up the real story about Donna that no one in the MSM wants to report?


41 posted on 01/28/2007 1:45:44 PM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: varina davis

42 posted on 01/28/2007 1:47:38 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: wagglebee
"I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way."

That was a great speech to the CPAC Convention. Reagan had it right. Let them go their way! LOL

Two years later, Reagan gave another great speech to the CPAC Convention. IMO, the Reagan speech that began changing the entire political landscape for the next generation. The Reagan speech that built the winning coalition of social and fiscal conervatives into a united GOP effort.
Reagan's Speech at the 4th Annual CPAC Convention: A New Republican Party, February 6, 1977

43 posted on 01/28/2007 1:48:40 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: wagglebee
Teacher Chas Street, 51, of Walpole, said Giuliani would have to explain "why things evolved the way they did."
How about this:

We are electing someone to lead us against nuke-armed Islamic hordes, not someone who can win a Sunday School debate.

Next question.

44 posted on 01/28/2007 1:54:51 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Reagan Man
The 1977 speech is another one of my favorites.

Here is what I think is the best part of the 1975 speech:

I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”—when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

45 posted on 01/28/2007 1:55:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy Giuliani is no Ronald Reagan

>>>>>Neither is any of the other Republican presidential candidates.

Got that right! Except that Rudy is further to the left then McCain, Romney, Gingrich, Hunter and in all honesty, Rudy is more liberal then anyone of the 10-12 names mentioned so far. Rudy is a Rockefeller Republicans in the mold of his liberal heros, NY Sen Jacob Javits, NYC Mayor John Lindsey and of course, NY Gov Nelson Rockefeller.

46 posted on 01/28/2007 2:01:40 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: NormsRevenge

She'll be a great asset to him if her runs.


47 posted on 01/28/2007 2:07:49 PM PST by veronica (http://z8.invisionfree.com/Tears_of_a_Kloughn/index.php?showforum=1)
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To: Woodman

Donna "Hanover" would intentially inflict duress on Rudy while he was undergoing prostate cancer treatments.

She would mock him while he was vomiting 8 times a day during the treatments.

She would also wake up at 5am to to do her morning aerobics in the room directly above where Rudy was living.

No wonder he moved out of Gracie Mansion to live with the 2 homosexuals.

Judy Nathan supported him during his cancer treatments and it was not a sexual relationship because the treatment caused impotence as a side effect.


48 posted on 01/28/2007 2:12:02 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: wagglebee

We'll know soon enough -- she does morning radio in New York City on WOR 710, just down the dial from 770 WABC.


49 posted on 01/28/2007 2:17:11 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Reagan Man

So those tax cuts, promoting school choice, and emphasizing public safety that Rudy pushed through was just more socialism?


50 posted on 01/28/2007 2:27:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: varina davis

They do, don't they?

I'm a huge supporter of Rudy but he does have some issues. Freepers need to familiarize themselves re: his affair with Christine Latagano (sp?)which was the real cause of the split with Donna Hanover. She was his close working partner at City Hall and when the affair became public, he had her transferred to another city job. This will all come out in the MSM but I just want the few Freepers who like Guiliani (myself included) to be aware of this.

Of course, this should put to rest the ridiculous rumor that Rudy's gay, so that's one positive!

By the way, I love your Freeper handle!!


51 posted on 01/28/2007 2:34:41 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Like many others, I'm fully aware of Rudi's marital history, but I can't help but think he's probably the only serious threat to a Dem candidate in '08. I do think he's tough, and I like that.

Glad you like my name. She's my hero.


52 posted on 01/28/2007 2:40:16 PM PST by varina davis
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To: Woodman

Donna Hanover & Rudy lived at Gracie Mansion during his cancer treatments - he at one end and she at the other (not that it's that big a house). She never went near him when he walked down the hall to the bathroom during the worst part of his treatment. Eventually Judy Nathan came in to take care of him.


53 posted on 01/28/2007 2:41:19 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: NapkinUser

Stop him he's the only one that can win.


54 posted on 01/28/2007 2:44:47 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: varina davis

Just read your bio. I could be friends with someone like you! I cook and LOVE Southern history.

I think Rudy's marital history will cause trouble, I'm afraid (although he was only involved with mature adult women and not interns) but I love him anyway. He made my New York a place to be proud of and safe to live in. Thank you, Rudy!


55 posted on 01/28/2007 2:46:51 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
>>>>>So those tax cuts, promoting school choice, and emphasizing public safety that Rudy pushed through was just more socialism?

Thus far, Rudy is the most leftwing candidate running for the GOP nomination. His fiscal record as Mayor of NYCity spanned an eight years time frame, with a beginning, middle and end phase. Lets look at the end phase --- my full version monte, not my short version.

TAXES: Giuliani did cut the marginal city income tax rates, reducing taxes by some $2.0-billion from 1996-2001, but those cuts only offset the $1.8-billion increase in city income tax rates put in place by Mayor Dinkins a few years earlier. In the end, taxes were actually cut by a modest $200-million. Freezing the 12.5% surcharge on high wage earners was good, but Giuliani didn't attempt to abolish that surcharge. Nor did Giuliani abolish the city income tax. The primary reason Rudy and the City Council agreed to cut taxes, was to make NYCity more appealing to new businesses thinking about locating/relocating to the Big Apple. A smart move, however, overall, Rudy left office with NYCity the highest taxed big city in America, with some of the highest income taxes, property taxes and ultility rates in the nation.

GOVT SPENDING: From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%. More then double the rate of inflation. Rudy left NYCity with a $2.0 billion deficit and a $42-billion debt. Second largest debt after the federal government. Giuliani also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls. Increasing the membership of two major liberal organizations, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).

From the Manhattan InstituteFor Policy Research:

"The scope of government was not reduced at all. The mayor abandoned his most visible initiative in this sphere—the proposed sale of the city hospital system—after a struggle with the unions and defeats in the courts. He did cut costs in social services; even before the new federal welfare reforms took effect in 1997, the city had begun to significantly reduce caseloads. But money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the city—from day care to virtually guaranteed housing—is as wide as ever."

"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficiently—not to make the city deliver fewer services. Gains in efficiency were offset, however, by a spike in the costs of outsourced contracts (see point 2 below). Thus, in two areas where inroads might have been made, the city instead failed to reduce spending."

"1. Personnel Increases. In 1995–96, the city entered into a series of collective bargaining agreements with its public-employee unions. In addition to granting pay increases that ended up roughly equaling inflation, the city promised not to lay off any workers for the life of the contracts. These agreements were expected to add $2.2 billion to the budget by fiscal 2001. But that estimate didn’t reckon with renewed growth in the number of city employees. After dipping in Giuliani’s first two years, the full-time headcount rose from 235,069, in June 1996 to over 253,000 by November 2000. Thanks largely to this growth in the workforce, the total increase in personnel service costs since 1995 has been $4 billion.

2. "Outsourced Services. The failure to shrink the scope of city government made it all the more imperative that Mayor Giuliani vastly increase its efficiency. In the attempt to increase productivity, the mayor farmed out some city services to private contractors. But as the number of outsourced contracts doubled under Giuliani, contractual expenses also nearly doubled—from $3 billion to $5.8 billion. While it may be argued that the city saved money by outsourcing these services, the net savings turned out to be marginal at best. In practice, outsourcing proved to be more of a bargaining chip in negotiations with unions than a serious means of pruning expenses."

Once again, hard evidence that Rudy Giuliani was NO fiscal conservative. Another run-of-the-mill NYCity liberal.

56 posted on 01/28/2007 2:47:52 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: wagglebee

Gorby rolled over like a good boy- we gave him a medel for it; so what?


57 posted on 01/28/2007 2:52:51 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

The point I was trying to make is that being presented with the Reagan Medal of Freedom does not mean a person is a conservative.


58 posted on 01/28/2007 2:55:17 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: jimbo123

It is better for a man to live (alone) in the corner upstairs, than with a contentious woman.
-Proverbs (paraphrased)


59 posted on 01/28/2007 2:55:21 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: Reagan Man
Who do you recommend to fight this war?

And, oh, political realities require that your candidate be able to win in 2008.

Cat got your tongue?

60 posted on 01/28/2007 2:57:16 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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