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To: Hostage
Excellent comments.

Although I wasn't there at the time, the theory is that Roosevelt declared the US was defacto bankrupt when in 1933 he forced all US citizens to sell their all their gold in exchange for Federal Reserve Notes. This was a vast liquidation of national wealth in exchange for paper money. It makes the UN Oil for Food scandal look like kids stuff.

The Federal Reserve Corporation is a stock company owned by National Banks with shares owned in proportion to their capital. I read a Federal Reserve statement that stated the corporation gives the profit it makes on the interest it charges back to the Government after taking out what it costs to run the Fed. Needless to say, they have very high costs. I have not seen any recent numbers as to how much their "donation" amounts to.

I don't want the US Government to assume the same role as the Federal Reserve. We have descended even further into tyranny through its functions. When this country was founded, money was private property. If I had a gold coin, it belonged to me. Today, all money that is not in the form of currency, actually exists in a sub-account of the Federal Reserve. Federal Reserve Notes are owned by the Federal Reserve. But we do not only not own the FRNs in our own wallet, with the recent emergency rule banning the melting of pennies, we do not own our own coinage. It is now illegal to buy pennies and do with them as you please.

Of course, the real crime is that government has so debased the currency that the last 'bullion' coin, the penny, now has more value in metal than it has as a coin.

These are not trivial concerns. They have everyday implications. If government owns the money, it has the right to tell us what usage, and purchases, are legal and what are not. They have, for example, forbidden credit card companies from processing charges relating to internet gambling, but not for example, for buying state powerball tickets.

The next step is far worse: just as felons are "debilitated" from being able to legally possess a firearm, will we come to the point where some criminals, such as drug dealers, and other unpopulars will be "debilitated" from legally possessing US currency?

So, money itself, something that government used to have to get from the citizen in taxes, now the citizen has to get it from government. And with the passage of the 16th Amendment, every dollar a person has in his wallet, no matter how he came to have it, is potentially a taxable event! It is only exempt from taxation when government decides to make it so, and of necessity every citizen is now in the position of having to prove the tax status of every penny he has.

If he fails to pay the tax and buys something with the funds, he is not only guilty of tax evasion, but of money laundering.

Thus money itself has become one of the many ways that government can keep control over citizens and insure itself an income stream from taxation. That is why I do not want the Fed to just be purchased and replaced by the US Treasury. I want the whole monster slain and for us to return to the Constitution in Exile.
18 posted on 01/29/2007 5:33:58 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
I have not seen any recent numbers as to how much their "donation" amounts to.

About $21.5 billion in 2005.

Federal Reserve Notes are owned by the Federal Reserve. But we do not only not own the FRNs in our own wallet,

Wrong.

26 posted on 01/31/2007 7:17:52 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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