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I don't know what happened with TWA 800. The center fuel tank explosion theory seems incredibly weak, but if it really was shot down by an American missile, I can't see how somebody wouldn't eventually leak it. That leaves a terrorist missile, and the plane was out of the envelope for engagement by a shoulder-fired IR surface-to-air missile.

The "US Navy did it" story is absolute crap for the reason you cite.

Shortly after the event the WSJ (not a crackpot publication) printed a story that I've never forgotten and never seen repeated. It said that radar showed one single boat in the area speeding away from the crash site while all the other boats in the area raced to the site (for possible rescue work.) The article said serious attempts to identify that boat were undertaken but were unsuccessful. The suspicion was that people on this boat fired a missile and then fled the scene.

As I said, one WSJ article followed by silence.

I agree with both of you about the Navy involvement. As Ben Franklin once said, "Three can keep a secret if two are dead".

The information about the fleeing boat was interesting and unknown to me.

I have read about Yousef and how he came close to causing a center fuel tank explosion on an Asian airline prior in preparation for the Bojinka plot. It was in Peter Lance's book, "Cover Up".

"Shortly after the event the WSJ (not a crackpot publication) printed a story that I've never forgotten and never seen repeated. It said that radar showed one single boat in the area speeding away from the crash site while all the other boats in the area raced to the site (for possible rescue work.) The article said serious attempts to identify that boat were undertaken but were unsuccessful. The suspicion was that people on this boat fired a missile and then fled the scene."

Yes. And Cashill neglects to mention the intercepted converstion between no less than Ramzi Yousef (an Iraqi) and his "uncle", Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, in which Yousef appeared to claim credit for the downing of TWA800, which he attempted to use as a way to disrupt his trial which was then underway. His request for a mistrial the day after TWA800 was denied.

Cashill knows about this and has written about this but obviously prefers the Navy-accident theory, which could be credible were it not for the hundreds, maybe even thousands of Naval personnel who would have to be kept silent. Can't happen.

...That leaves a terrorist missile, and the plane was out of the envelope for engagement by a shoulder-fired IR surface-to-air missile.

But not out of range for a variety of larger, longer-range missiles which could easily be fired from a vehicle-mounted launcher (such as a boat, as aculeus notes below).

Shortly after the event the WSJ (not a crackpot publication) printed a story that I've never forgotten and never seen repeated. It said that radar showed one single boat in the area speeding away from the crash site while all the other boats in the area raced to the site (for possible rescue work.) The article said serious attempts to identify that boat were undertaken but were unsuccessful. The suspicion was that people on this boat fired a missile and then fled the scene.

Or sank the boat, and themselves with it. (Of course, our enemies would never commit suicide to attack us. /sarc) In the few instances where this radar track was ever discussed, it was "dismissed" because it was claimed they couldn't find the boat, and that it would be impossible to hide a boat that size. (My comment - it's not impossible if no one is seriously looking for it.)

As I said, one WSJ article followed by silence.

And, curiously, the recordings of those radar tracks disappeared, and the statements of those who actually observed them were then breezily "dismissed" or "discounted". (Those are SUCH useful media weasel-words; they are endlessly used to imply the same meaning as "disproven", but they actually mean no such thing!)

Hmm. I'd never heard that before.

It'd be interesting to go back ten years and see what sorts of mid-90s missile systems could be mounted on a smallish boat capable of heading a little ways out into the ocean, and could be concealed while on that boat. IIRC the plane was at about 13,000 feet when the explosion occurred, which is just at or beyond the outer edge of a MANPAD's reach (maybe not newer ones). And larger missiles, using radar guidance, are pretty big. But maybe a radar-guided missile might explain a center-of-mass hit instead of an IR missile, which you'd think, on a 747, would hit a wing, where the engines and heat are. Or, it could have been a bomb, as others in the thread have stated.

There's still more of this story left to be discovered, for sure, whatever the cause of TWA 800's destruction.

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"The suspicion was that people on this boat fired a missile and then fled the scene."

If it was a terrorist act, they would have claimed credit for it.

"The "US Navy did it" story is absolute crap for the reason you cite."

Maybe so but the "who" of the story is not as important as the cover up that is continuing to this day.

Cashill's courageous journalistic efforts have uncovered the follwoing facts:

*Under the pretext of National Security the
FBI was given initial control of the
investigation. This procedure as at complete
odds with the normal procedure where the
NTSB is given control of Civil Aviation
accidents.

The obvious conclusion to be drawn from
this confluence of events is that the
Clinton Administration assumed that the
downing of TWA flight 800 was a terrorist
event.

*The FBI, under James Kallstrom, sanitized
any physical evidence suggesting a terrorist
attack. the sanitized physical evidence was
then handed over to the NTSB.

*When the NTSB Report of TWA Flight 800 began
to be contradicted by eyewitness testimony
Richard Clark concocted the mechanical
failure theory later aided by the CIA-
created crash simulation.

*By failing to treat the TWA Flight 800
crash as a terrorist incident incalculable
damage was done to the National Security
which lead to directly to the paralyzed
non-response prior to the attacks on 9/11.

The act of covering up the terrorist connections to TWA Flight 800 was an act of treason. Every effort should be made to bring this scandal to light, even at this late hour.Cashill's most recent revelations are only a reminder that the cover up which started in 1996 is continuing to
this day.

If, by the grace of God, this cover up scandal was ever investigated and brought the attention of the American People there might be hope to stop the beautiful psychopaths (the Clintons) and their Dixie Mafia/Media Whore/Useful Idiot friends from despoiling the White House again.