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Carter and Clinton's "New Covenant"--The latest assault on Southern Baptists
GrassTopsUSA.com | Frontpagemagazine ^ | January 30, 2007 | Don Feder

Posted on 01/30/2007 5:11:26 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 01/30/2007 5:11:27 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

These guys know no standard of low, do they? The bottom always seems to get lower, yet, when they are involved!


2 posted on 01/30/2007 5:20:21 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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William D. Underwood, president of Atlanta’s Mercer University, and another organizer of the Covenant, explained: "We’re not against any other group of people of faith. We’re against the fact that 100,000 people died last month of malaria. We’re against the fact that hundreds of thousands of Africans face starvation each year."

Bill Underwood is a former business litigation lawyer from Dallas that left his practice to teach at Baylor University. He helped shepherd the University through tough times related to their basketball program. A good guy, but tough and no-nonsense. He used to be called "Undertaker" for his business suits and cool demeanor in class.

3 posted on 01/30/2007 5:26:01 AM PST by naturalized (Chazaq!)
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To: SJackson

BTTT.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 5:30:20 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("I'll build the g--d---- fence if they want it." -- John McCain, A Modern Profile In Courage)
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To: SJackson; tutstar; trillabodilla; GrandEagle; del4hope; duckbutt; Fiddlstix; somniferum; ...

Yet another UN-baptist Baptist Ping.


5 posted on 01/30/2007 5:37:19 AM PST by WKB (A wasted day is a day in which we have not laughed!)
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To: SJackson
Don Feder is a journalist in the truest sense of the word. Rather than the ad hominem attacks so prevalent today in the craft of reporting, Mr. Feder brings research and wit to the readers' perusal.
6 posted on 01/30/2007 5:39:57 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: SJackson

I am sure that what with BIll Clinton's faithful church attendance and exemplary Christian life, that he is just eactly the one most suitable to read the Southern Baptists their rights. Besides which he is aided in this by that shining light of international diplomacy, Jimmy Carter. This seems to me to be an unbeatable team. Look out, Rev. Stanley!!


7 posted on 01/30/2007 5:44:39 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: naturalized

Underwood was brought in to dismantle President Sloane's vision to make Baylor the foremost evangelical university in America. Sloane was gathering academics committed to that vision and it upset the liberals on the Board of Trustees. Underwood has found like minded people in Clinton/Carter.


8 posted on 01/30/2007 5:59:01 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: SJackson

If that old-time religion has such a bad rep, why are evangelical and charismatic churches growing, while the old-line, liberal Protestant denominations continue their 30-year decline?


Exactly, you can't pass your deeply held convictions on to the next generation if you don't have any.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:51 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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Faiths Fairness Doctrine

Buy a new tax free tent and hit the holy roller road for the 2008 election. Oh ya and faith too!
10 posted on 01/30/2007 6:16:41 AM PST by colonialhk (not a sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: blue-duncan
Clinton/Carter are just another head of the same snake.

There is another like-minded movement (snake with a similar goal and Purpose) afoot in the church and its leader, at a Pew Forum on mega-churches, has also stated that "fundamentalism", including Christian fundamentalism, is the enemy of the 21st century. This leader is also concentrating on the social gospel...

...that leader's name is Rick Warren.

11 posted on 01/30/2007 6:19:16 AM PST by pby
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Clinton/Carter long range goal is to start their own church and become TV Evangelists?
12 posted on 01/30/2007 6:43:17 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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William D. Underwood, president of Atlanta’s Mercer University, and another organizer of the Covenant, explained: "We’re not against any other group of people of faith. We’re against the fact that 100,000 people died last month of malaria. We’re against the fact that hundreds of thousands of Africans face starvation each year."

So can we assume they favor the use of DDT?

13 posted on 01/30/2007 6:44:31 AM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: pby
There is another like-minded movement (snake with a similar goal and Purpose) afoot in the church and its leader, at a Pew Forum on mega-churches, has also stated that "fundamentalism", including Christian fundamentalism, is the enemy of the 21st century. This leader is also concentrating on the social gospel...

...that leader's name is Rick Warren.

I don't know. Rick Warren seems mostly like a fad, running out of sequels. What's left, The Purpose Driven Sunday School?

If you've got any links, please post them.

14 posted on 01/30/2007 6:48:04 AM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: Shery

The Southern Baptists are one of the only protestant denominations these days having lots of children. The Methodists, Presbyterian, Episcopals, etc are not procreating at the same levels. In the liberal sectors having two kids is having a large family; having more you run the risk of being labeled a "breeder" and being anti-environment among other things. To remain liberal lap-dogs like the main-line churches have become, you cannot have more than to kids. Folks, forcing (key word here) families to remain at two kids is not replacement level, it is not even zero growth. It is negative growth.

The other reason mainstream churches are losing members is the fact that they offer nothing but the "I'm ok - you're ok" philosophy and everything is permissible. The liberal denominations are turning out totally licentious youths who think, "well, if I can find the truth in myself, why do I need church?"

Carter and Clinton are creating what will eventually be considered the real Souther Baptist denomination. The conservative SBC will be considered renegade and be looked at even lower in the eyes of liberals if that is possible.


15 posted on 01/30/2007 7:47:48 AM PST by swampmonster (Carter, Clinton, Gore, etc. The South destroys western civilization through its leaders!)
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The Southern Baptists are one of the only protestant denominations these days having lots of children.
Although not protestant (we didn't come out of the Catholic churck) - There are at least two other associations that are conservative - in many ways more so than the SBC.
ABA and
BMA churches.
16 posted on 01/30/2007 8:19:58 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: SJackson

I was just going to post this if it wasn't posted already. Don Feder is such a talented writer, and he really hit this one out of the park. I am extremely grateful for Don Feder. He is one of my favorites.


17 posted on 01/30/2007 9:35:58 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: WKB

I should have checked my pings earlier. This is a great column. Thanks for the ping to it.


18 posted on 01/30/2007 9:38:46 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: TYVets
Warren isn't a tv evangelist.

But Warren, like Clinton/Carter, takes a "softer", more "appealing" approach to the gospel, doctrine, preaching, fundamentalism than does the SBC leadership.

I am sure that the Clinton/Carter plan will work well with Warren's global P.E.A.C.E. Plan. Warren says that he will work with Muslims, Hindus and non-Christians in order to carry out his P.E.A.C.E. Plan (forget Scripture, sound doctrine and salvation through Christ...we've got AIDS, poverty, lack of education, "spiritual emptiness" (whatever that is) injustice, egotistical leadership and etc. to cure! Lets partner together and get it done).

Listen to what Clinton/Carter and Warren are saying...They sound very, very similar.

These similarities may be a sign of the same end goal.

What do you expect from somebody who is a member of the CFR?

19 posted on 01/30/2007 10:11:50 AM PST by pby
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To: Entrepreneur
The Purpose Driven Sunday School, and Churches, and Cities (Orlanda, Fl), and Countries (Rwanda) already exist.

Look at the Orange County Register's article on Purpose Driven Rwanda and how Rwanda's President is appreciative for the economic influence and business oppurtunities that Warren has brought to the Rwanda...It is more than just a fad.

And...Clinton/Carter are a little late to the table; Warren has been doing and saying, for years, what Clinton/Carter are just starting to do and say. Warren says that we need "more deeds and less creeds" and that for far too long the church has been just a "big mouth" and that he is not just for the "left wing or the right wing - he's for the whole bird" and etc.

Clinton/Carter, the emergent church and Purpose Driven all lead down the same path (away from a biblical Christ-centered Church towards a complete man-centered church).

Check out Warren's global P.E.A.C.E. Plan. The goals will make Clinton/Carter proud! And this plan can be implemented through any religion (Hindu, Muslim, non-Christian - Warren will work with them all to cure AIDS, cure poverty, cure spirtiual emptiness, and the other "global giants"...It doesn't need biblical, doctrinal, fundamental, gospel-based, real Christianity...Just give Warren a "man of peace" and he'll get the job done. The churches, mosques, synagogues and temples will be the P.E.A.C.E. Plan distribution centers (according to Warren).

www.pewforum.org/events/index.php?eventID=80 will take you to the Pew Forum's "Myths of the Modern Mega-Church". Warren talks about Christian fundamentalism as an enemy and also talks about his global P.E.A.C.E. Plan (which is really just a christianezed verzion of Peter Drucker's communitarianism).

20 posted on 01/30/2007 10:49:17 AM PST by pby
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