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Japan minister slammed for calling women 'child-bearing machines'
Yahoo! News ^ | Sat Jan 27, 10:52 PM ET | AFP

Posted on 01/31/2007 3:37:45 PM PST by DTogo

TOKYO (AFP) - Japan's health minister has come under fire after referring to women as "child-bearing machines" in a speech on the country's declining birth rate. ADVERTISEMENT

"The number of women aged between 15 and 50 is fixed," Hakuo Yanagisawa said Saturday at a meeting with local members of the ruling conservative Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) in the western city of Matsue, Kyodo News reported.

"Because the number of child-bearing machines and devices is fixed, all we can ask is they do their best per capita."

Yanagisawa, a 71-year-old former finance ministry bureaucrat, apologised for his remarks during his 30-minute speech, but his comments sparked anger from two of the country's leading women writers.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: babymachines; birthrate; birthrates; footinmouthdisease; future; japan; population
Never a shortage of older Japanese politicians suffering from "foot-in-mouth" afflictions.
1 posted on 01/31/2007 3:37:48 PM PST by DTogo
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To: DTogo

LOL! That sad part is, he's right. 100 years ago that would have been a compliment.


2 posted on 01/31/2007 3:39:02 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: DTogo

Why is sensitivity so overvalued? It's the compelling question of our era.


3 posted on 01/31/2007 3:40:08 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Japan * ping * (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)
4 posted on 01/31/2007 3:40:09 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: L98Fiero

It takes two to Tango: even in Japan.


5 posted on 01/31/2007 3:41:35 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

That's pretty pathetic, why doesn't he refer to all men as just sperm machines. I hope there is more to me than that.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 3:41:57 PM PST by Mazda3Fan
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To: DTogo

With the rise of artificial insemination techniques, ....


... not anymore it doesn't.


7 posted on 01/31/2007 3:43:06 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

In Japan they still Tango, for the most part.


8 posted on 01/31/2007 3:45:32 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo
The average number of children per woman stood at 1.26 in 2005 and the birthrate will gradually decline to 1.21 in 2013, the survey showed.

Yanagisawa was wrong on two counts. Japanese women are not machines. Nor are they doing much child-bearing these days.

9 posted on 01/31/2007 3:46:21 PM PST by Logophile
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To: DTogo

When discussing reproduction, the number of offspring is determined by the number of females, as the old man is pointing out. Regarding the same topic, I'm a sperm-donor and a female is a "child-bearing machine".

The old-timer was discussing birth-rates, it seems so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.


10 posted on 01/31/2007 3:46:57 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: DTogo

They'll waste their time having a fit about this, but, in a few (non-)generations, the Japanese people will disappear...


11 posted on 01/31/2007 3:47:19 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: DTogo
This guy's been watching too much anime.

I think he may have this in mind:

(Anyone who knows the anime it's from knows why posting this is an apt comment on Yanagisawa's gaffe.)

12 posted on 01/31/2007 3:47:26 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: DTogo
LOL! He pissed off some Japanese feminists. His comments weren't inaccurate. His real offense isn't how he made the comment, it was that he asked feminists to do something as distasteful as bearing children.

He should have just told them that he was sorry that his comments offended them, but political correctness tends to avoid issues rather than addressing them so he's rather be politically incorrect than useless.

13 posted on 01/31/2007 3:48:38 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Logophile
Yanagisawa is part of the problem on 2 counts: he's a "typical" Japanese male, and part of the government.

Both major inhibitors to Japanese women having more kids.

14 posted on 01/31/2007 3:49:40 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

ROTFLOL! The Japanese version of Biden.


15 posted on 01/31/2007 3:50:54 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: atomicpossum

I've done my part to prevent that! ;^)


16 posted on 01/31/2007 3:51:22 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

So What? What ever happened to "Sticks and stones will hurt my bones but names will never hurt me"?


17 posted on 01/31/2007 3:57:04 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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To: DTogo
I've heard, the TAXES are very heavy in Japan....is any sign, the taxes may go DOWN?....more kids now, more taxpayers.
18 posted on 01/31/2007 4:30:34 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: SteveMcKing
Yes - but people are living much longer.

Maybe we SHOULD ratchet things (reproduction) back, a bit.

Global population continues to climb.

Unless you think we need more "whites" or other racial groups etc. reproducing. Something with which I disagree & find repulsive, frankly.
19 posted on 01/31/2007 4:49:05 PM PST by 4Liberty ( forced charity = theft)
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To: canuck_conservative

Off topic (sort of) but if they can make a working birthing tank (incidentally, it the Japanese that are behind a lot of the research), then theoretically all abortion can be outlawed. Abortionists would loose their arguments (except for overpopulation--hopeful society doesn't sink so low that abortion is encouraged to prevent an "overpopulated" Earth).


20 posted on 01/31/2007 4:50:09 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Logophile

Japan has the lowest levels in the developed world, and most other developed countries are below replacement level, too (including the United States).


21 posted on 01/31/2007 4:51:49 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: atomicpossum

Short of a catastrophe, make that a few centuries (that is what their (Japanese) predictions suggest).


22 posted on 01/31/2007 4:53:30 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Supply-side economic theory hasn't been translated into Japanese yet.

+ Guys like this Yanagisawa are still stuck in the era of Government Knows Best.

23 posted on 01/31/2007 4:53:49 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: 4Liberty

Generally not an overpopulationist (support 1 billion Americans), but respect their arguments--as long as they aren't proponents of abortion to reduce/stabilize the population. Opinion is that more efforts should be made to colonize space (i.e. search for habitable planets and how to get there (superluminal travel), research into terraforming Mars, etc.) so that there is no pressing need for population limits.


24 posted on 01/31/2007 4:58:29 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: L98Fiero

I didn't see any passages in the speech where he refers to men as "semen machines." By making his case in the most boorish manner possible, he undermined his own argument.


25 posted on 01/31/2007 7:33:01 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Clintonfatigued
WHOA! ....great tagline... :D
26 posted on 01/31/2007 7:54:18 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: DTogo

"Beat" Takeshi says that its the feminists (modern women) who have made men unable to get it up ;>)


27 posted on 01/31/2007 8:02:39 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thanks!

I've gotten a lot of comments about it (many not favorable). It makes people think, which is the point.


28 posted on 01/31/2007 8:05:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Al Simmons
If by feminists he means the Code Pink types, I agree with him.

But any man unable to arouse himself in Japan has to be dead.

29 posted on 01/31/2007 8:07:39 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo
"But any man unable to arouse himself in Japan has to be dead."

If anime is anything to go by, you just said a mouthful, brother.

Every day when I awake I wish I had been born Japanese.

Kitano's films opened a new world to me and the more I watch Japanese TV on YouTube (helpful when there are subtitles or someone posts what you are about to see) the more I realize that its possibly the most SANE nation on the planet - in a strictly cultural sense, of course.

Women and men know their places.

P.S. I agree with Takeshi, Fumin has GREAT t*ts!!!!!!!!!!!

30 posted on 01/31/2007 9:11:36 PM PST by Al Simmons ("I leave Japanese film in your hands." - Akira Kurosawa to Takeshi Kitano, 1998)
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To: The_Reader_David
I've always been wondering what she had to do with this guy:


31 posted on 02/01/2007 3:59:00 AM PST by cartan
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To: The_Reader_David

Armitage III. And, yes, I get the reference. ;-)


32 posted on 02/01/2007 4:17:11 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

'I didn't see any passages in the speech where he refers to men as "semen machines."'

That's because he wasn't talking about men, he was talking about women and birth-rate. He said nothing that isn't true. He just offended the oh-so-delicate sensibilities of the chronically offended. He never even infereed that is all women are.


33 posted on 02/01/2007 4:44:52 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: DTogo

And to think he probably said it without even having one beer under his belt.


34 posted on 02/01/2007 4:56:12 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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