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Family, Military Upset Over Iraq Story
Newsday ^ | 1/31/07 | ROBERT TANNER

Posted on 01/31/2007 5:00:39 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

The intimate portrayal of a sergeant's death during Army efforts to clear a Baghdad neighborhood has caused friction between the military and The New York Times, while sparking larger questions about war coverage and media-military relations.

Two journalists working on the Times' story were apparently threatened with expulsion from their embed status, a move that puzzled military reporters who've worked in Iraq.

Press advocates were concerned about distrust between military leaders and the media, and other observers noted the power of the video that accompanied the story, capturing the day's mix of confusion, fear and heroics.

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1 posted on 01/31/2007 5:00:42 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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Press advocates were concerned about distrust between military leaders and the media

Why is the press surprised? They are openly supporting our enemies in this war after all!

2 posted on 01/31/2007 5:02:08 PM PST by pnh102
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To: kiriath_jearim

Shoot the NY times reporters next time.


3 posted on 01/31/2007 5:02:27 PM PST by pissant
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To: pnh102
Ever since the Nam whenever I hear of a "newsie" getting his final reward covering a war somewhere I feel pretty much the same way I do about hearing of the death of any enemy soldier.

It's like nothing happened at all. Just more background noise ~ meaninglessness compounded with more meaninglessness.

Don't those press advocates understand that the "distrust" isn't between them and the military commanders; it's between everybody and the press.

4 posted on 01/31/2007 5:11:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: kiriath_jearim; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...

STINKING NY-SLIMES Presstitutes!


5 posted on 01/31/2007 5:12:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: muawiyah

CNN supressed news of torture and murder under Saddam Hussein to maintain their Baghdad bureau. For all their talk of impartiality and opression by the Bush administration, the media was always more afraid of annoying Saddam than America.

They are Saddamites and traitors to this nation.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 5:15:51 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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7 posted on 01/31/2007 5:16:19 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Two journalists working on the Times' story were apparently threatened with expulsion from their embed status, a move that puzzled military reporters who've worked in Iraq

Gee all we were trying to do was make a propaganda film, while simultaneously inflicting tremendous suffering on the dying soldier, his families and the other soldiers serving with him. What's the big whup dog?

8 posted on 01/31/2007 5:21:05 PM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: pnh102
Shows you the intelligence of "press advocates".

I know several mid level officers in Iraq. The press gets to ride up front - the second vehicle. They want to make sure they experience the full Iraq experience. Of course that is after they have resisted taking the press as much as they could and were ordered to do it. More than one newsie has decided there is a better story somewhere else when their position in the convoy is pointed out to them.

My daughter's boyfriend (at the time) was trying to bring one of his wounded buddies to the rear of the convoy hit by an IED, while under sniper fire. The reporter along for the ride was in his way and wouldn't move to clear the path. He put down his buddy, turned and killed the sniper, pushed the reporter out of the way and carried his buddy to a safe place. He received a Bronze Star for that action.

F' the lamestream press, the military should decertify most of the scumbags and leave them in the green zone where they spend most of their time anyway.

Semper Fi.

9 posted on 01/31/2007 5:22:40 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks so few circuses.)
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He put down his buddy, turned and killed the sniper, pushed the reporter out of the way and carried his buddy to a safe place. He received a Bronze Star for that action.

I gotta ask. Exactly which action? Killing the sniper, saving his buddy or pushing the reporter?

10 posted on 01/31/2007 5:27:12 PM PST by magslinger (I am NOT running for President, nor have I formed an exploratory committee)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Woooo hooo! Well said - leave their sorry butts in the Green Zone. I hate those reporters, they get in the way and then put their own spin on stories.


11 posted on 01/31/2007 5:37:26 PM PST by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: mystery-ak

Good picture, thanks! By the way, I didn't mean to almost copy your tagline! Prayers for Jonathan, how's he doing? Prayers for you, too!! Is your husband there also?


12 posted on 01/31/2007 5:39:34 PM PST by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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Jonathan will be home Sat for 2 weeks R&R and then back to Iraq til Oct...hubby leaves again in June....where is your son?


13 posted on 01/31/2007 5:41:47 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: weegee

Bump.


14 posted on 01/31/2007 5:43:02 PM PST by RedRover (They are warriors. LET THEM WIN)
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To: mystery-ak

I'm stealing that. Hope it's ok.


15 posted on 01/31/2007 6:34:36 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand The Storm!)
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56 years ago, this month..during the Truman Administration

Full wartime censorship was placed on Korean War news.

Waterloo Daily Courier, front page | January 9, 1951 | UP

Full Wartime Censorship Placed on Korean War News

U. S. Eighth Army headquarters, Korea. –(UP) –

The US.Eighth Army imposed full wartime censorship on news coverage of the Korean War Tuesday and threatened to courtmartial newsmen who deliberately report any troop movements without authorization.

Veteran war correspondents agreed the regulations were the most inclusive they had ever received from any army headquarters.

The rules placed correspondents under the complete jusrisdiction of the army and forbade any crisicism of the Allied conduct of the war.

The regulations, succeeding the present security censorship, provide that all dispatches filed to publications throughout the world will be screened for military information which might injure the morale of UN troops or their government.

Mention of the following matters was specifically forbidden:

1. Identity of organizations in the combat and communications zones, unless anounced in communiques. When announced, no place names will be used.
2. Quoting officers in any way, except as specifically authorized
3. Stating that any sector in Korea is occupied by American troops until the enemy has established it as a fact.
4. Stating that any town or village in the combat zone is accupied [sic] by American or Allied forces unless it is essential to a news story.
5. The mention of any base port, communications center or other point on a communications line. [newspaper's emphasis]
6. Ship or rail movements, unless authorized
7. Any discussion of Allied air power
8. The mention of number of troops, unless authorized.
9. The effect of enemy fire or bombarment, unless authorized.

Also listed as unauthorized was information on the strength, efficiency, morale, or organization of Allied forces.

Under this rule, no mention may be made of reinforcements, equipment, arms, plans and forecasts of future operations, or positions or descriptions of camps.

Casualties may not be revealed before official publication. [Paper's emphasis]

The Eighth Army ruled that any violator of the code will be suspended from all privileges.

"He may be subject to disciplinary action because of an intentional violation of these and other regulations, either in letter or in spirit, and in extreme cases of offense where investigation proves the circumstances warrant the correspondent may be placed in arrest to await deportation or trial by courtmaritial,' the announcement said.


16 posted on 01/31/2007 6:49:02 PM PST by syriacus (30 months in Korea => 30,000 US deaths. Average = 1,000 deaths per month under Truman.)
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To: Flora McDonald

Sure...I forgot who I stole it from...lol


17 posted on 01/31/2007 6:52:55 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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>>>Raymondville High School Principal Gilbert Galvan said a Times reporter had called him on Monday and asked him to show the family the story about incident that killed their son. Galvan said that Leija's brother read the article while he was there.<<<

They are ghouls. These reporters are monsters who get a vicarious thrill and a paycheck for amplifying the heartbreaking sorrow of the fallen soldier's family. It is not an ethical question here, it is a sickness inside the reporter that would actually manipulate the Principal into showing the Leija brother the article. Because there is another story for him in the brother's grief. Ghouls.
18 posted on 01/31/2007 7:22:23 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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"56 years ago, this month..during the Truman Administration
Full wartime censorship was placed on Korean War news."

***
Thanks for posting this. The Korean War hardly gets mentioned any more.


19 posted on 01/31/2007 7:24:06 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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The Korean War hardly gets mentioned any more.

Teachers don't seem to talk about it either. My 4 kids learned only little about it in school, as did my siblings, my husband and I.

20 posted on 01/31/2007 8:09:40 PM PST by syriacus (30 months in Korea =30,000 US deaths (Truman sent them to fight a "police action" vs "bandits"))
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