Posted on 02/01/2007 9:56:54 AM PST by 1stbn27
We are not going to allow this to happen if we have to stand 20 deep around the WALL.
This letter will be going all over the Internet...to all the major Veteran groups...please spread this far and wide.
This was posted on another group. In case you think it's of little importance, they are formimg up at THE WALL! In case you think these are a bunch of loonies with nothing better to do on St. Patrick\'s Day, think again. Here is a link to the groups involved (They are NOT the Boy Scouts) and to their website. Be sure to check out the t-shirts they are selling, especially the Che Guevera one. It is my opinion that it is time to plan a St. Patricks Day Road Trip, and Lock & Load, at least in the verbal sense and protect a very Sacred and Special Place. I am not saying we should express any opinion on the war, that is for each of us to decide.
What I am saying is how many of us want Jane Fonda, Cindy Sheehan, FMLN (Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front) USA, Vietnam Veterans Against the War Anti-Imperialist, Welfare Warriors, All India Anti-imperialist Forum, Muslim Student Association West, Berkeley Fellowship UU\'s Social Justice, Gay Liberation Network - Chicago; B. Ross Ashley co-founder Union of American Exiles-1968* Toronto, and hundreds of other far left, Anti American Organizations to use The Wall as a focal point for their own Private Agendas? Yes, we all served to protect their Freedom of Speech, but if their oblivious use of this Sacred Ground to garner more Media Coverage goes un-challenged, surely the Spirits of our Dead Brothers and Sisters on The Wall will cry out in pain.
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS LIST! http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8137
March 17 -- March on Pentagon!: Time to Turn Up the Heat!
~ 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 march on the Pentagon ~ ~ 4th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war ~
On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now! 2007 is the 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 anti-war march to the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. The message of the 1967 march was \"From Protest to Resistance,\" and marked a turning point in the development of a countrywide mass movement.
In the coming days and weeks, thousands of organizations and individuals will begin mobilizing for the upcoming March on the Pentagon. Organizing committees and transportation centers are being established to bring people to the March on the Pentagon.
The March 17 demonstration will assemble at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at 12 noon in Washington, D.C.and march to the Pentagon.
We can not allow this to happen!
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Semper Fidelis, Dane Brown USMC, 1/27, RVN68
BUMP
Please check out this other thread. We need to coordinate these efforts and postings to achieve the highest attendance possible: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777003/posts ("resource list")
BTTT!
Please see the parallel thread; address is on my posting #2 on this thread.
BTT
Thanks for the reply.....I will check out the others....All I know is that I will be standing in front of Panel 50E at the Wall....I have many brothers on that Panel in particular that ain't nobody gonna desicrate.......
Semper Fidelis,
Dane Brown
40 = 20 deep and 2 wide.
Thanks Joy.
I was just bumping for publicity.
I'm in Canada, but I wish you folks good luck.
Whats that supposed to mean....I'm new here and I only speak certain lingo....
I am not certain how to contact them, but I would dearly love to see "ROLLING THUNDER" either make 2 trips to DC this year (March 17 and Memorial Day) OR, make the March 176th trip THE trip, so have a true show of forcwe and to hear the sound of HOGS covering the sound of pigs!
GOD bless all of our warriors past and present!!
I'm sure just about every chapter of Rolling Thunder has already been notified,and I imagine they'll be there.....or some of them anyway.......
Please feel free to contact us at our national office.
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URL: http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8107
Exact wording below
March on the Pentagon
Saturday, March 17, 2007
~ 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 march on the Pentagon ~
~ 4th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war ~
On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now! 2007 is the 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 anti-war march to the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. The message of the 1967 march was "From Protest to Resistance," and marked a turning point in the development of a countrywide mass movement.
In the coming days and weeks, thousands of organizations and individuals will begin mobilizing for the upcoming March on the Pentagon. Organizing committees and transportation centers are being established to bring people to the March on the Pentagon.
The March 17 demonstration will assemble at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at 12 noon in Washington, D.C.and march to the Pentagon.
Together We Served BUMP!!
ANGKOR - Thanks for Rolling Thunder info.
ALL: The D.C. Chapter is in some early planning stages now for March 17, but keep spreading the word. Keep an eye out on the thread linked in Post 3.
Anyone have contact info for Patriot Guard Riders. I heard they've expanded their mission to beyond just funerals.
[Mr] T
Here is a link to the counterrally. We are defending both the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and the Pentagon from these hate America freaks.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777003/posts?q=1&&page=51
I meant this link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777003/posts?page=51,5
I hope to make it Dane
Sgt Jim ( Banky) Bancroft
No leaving sick bay before your able. I'm sure as h3ll too far over the hill to try a fireman's carry with you. I don't care how lbs you've dropped.
Found Patriot Guard National Leadership contact info at the following link: http://www.patriotguard.org/LeadershipContacts/NationalLeadership/tabid/245/Default.aspx
Hopefully, it will be long enough after surgery I can drive and rent a wheelchair! :)
I'll find out after the monday meeting with the 2nd doctor
Come on freepers. There were just 20 or so of us last weekend. We need you to come to DC for this!
To all that have replied.....thanks, and I hope to see a bunch there.......I will pass this info around to all I know......
Semper Fi
Dane Brown
USMC, 1/27, RVN68
I saw these Patriot Guard guys at the last Veterans' Day Parade in NYC. Here they are at that parade. They were unbelievably impressive! And so many of them!
Those nimwits are also going to desecrate the Pentagon on that day (They want to try to levitate it again). They are trying to do double damage here
From Dane Brown USMC, 1/27, RVN68
Okay, I'm gonna see what I can do to fly into D.C. St. Paddy's Day.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
"C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div.
'69-'70
We need to get someone to coordinate all these efforts and organize. Get permits to use the grounds, PR, etc. See here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777218/posts
LOCAL MEDIA IS KEY!
These other people have an organizational infrastructure dating forty -years and all they need do is pull the trigger to mobilize their troops ...They are a lot better at it than our side and we have a lot of catching up to do to counter them.
It's not how HARD you fight, but how SMART.
Someone take command and get hot!
Feel free to contact me to coordinate, brainstorm, recruit spokespersons for local/national media, etc.
IF ANYONE HAS PERSONAL 'INS' WITH OR CONTACT INFO TO ANY MEDIA OUTLETS, ORGANIZATIONS, TALK RADIO, please let Kristinn know.
Also, the main thread for is March 17 Information. Keep looking here.
Contact Kristinn for any details, but give us a little time to get more info.
[Mr] T
Thanks for the info & links!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
cANSWER always gets permits for whatever they ask for. cANSWER has taken to "blanket permitting" all of downtown DC public spaces, to keep any counter protesters from getting a location near them. (Yes, this is the same thing that the leftists whined about for the 2005 Inaugural; that the Inaugural Committee had gotten all of DC and there was no place for "the people" to dissent)
cANSWER has a bunch of commie (yes, they are self admitted communists) lawyers who will make demands, who will declare that their rights are being violated, who will threaten lawsuits, in order to get that park space. And sadly, they will more than likely get it; respect for the names of the dead on the Wall be damned. The leftists are louder now than they have been in awhile. They know that the Wall is sacred ground to most Americans. This is their act of disrespect and hate towards our soldiers past and present, and towards our country.
It is probably a good idea to continue to spread the word among veterans about March 17th. cANSWER usually gets what they want in DC.
If you go over there, as just a single Veteran to visit your WALL, then you don't have to have a permit...I've gone to several of these, and ain't never worried about a permit...there is no law against, or permit needed for as many veterans as you want to, in order to go visit the wall....if there are organizations there with permits, and it makes you feel better or more legal, then I'm sure they will let you sign on with them.....in other words, don't let not having a permit stop you from being at "your" wall on March 17th.........
Recap of the VNV Wall &
The March on the Pentagon
Exact wording below
March on the Pentagon
Saturday, March 17, 2007
~ 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 march on the Pentagon ~
~ 4th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war ~
On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now! 2007 is the 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 anti-war march to the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. The message of the 1967 march was "From Protest to Resistance," and marked a turning point in the development of a countrywide mass movement.
In the coming days and weeks, thousands of organizations and individuals will begin mobilizing for the upcoming March on the Pentagon. Organizing committees and transportation centers are being established to bring people to the March on the Pentagon.
The March 17 demonstration will assemble at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at 12 noon in Washington, D.C.and march to the Pentagon.
To All Vietnam Veterans, Veterans, Military, and True Americans
Please forward this information to all Veterans, Military, and clear thinking Americans that you know...these Un-American Morons and worse, are intending to use "The Wall" as their starting point of their Anti-War March on March 17th.
Contact the Dept of the Interior, the DC Park District, your Congressmen and Senators. Ask them to close the Wall for repairs on that day. It is against the law to protest at any of the Memorials in DC.
I have been in contact with the Dept of the Interior and they did want to see the above website and wording because the protestors do have a permit to gather, but NOT a permit to gather at the WALL. I am waiting for their reply. I also contacted both of my Senators and my Congressman and asked them to pressure the DC Park District to fence off the WALL area for "Repairs" on the 17th of March.
If none of this works let's be there to keep them away. The Wall is HALLOWED GROUND. They have no right to soil it in this manner. If they throw paint on the WALL like they did the steps to the Capitol there will have HELL to pay! Just there presence is insulting! Pass this on and on and on and on!
I then contacted and recieved a Reply Mail from the National Park Service
Dear Sir:
I forwarded your E-mail attachment to the National Park Service employee and U.S. Park Police Sergeant who will be meeting with applicants for a public gathering permit for a large march/demonstration on 17 MAR 07. At this time, it is accurate to state that the National Park Service has issued no permit for any event starting at the Wall of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, on that date. As I mentioned on the telephone, there are special regulations, found at Title 36, United States Code of Federal Regulations, Section 7.97, which protect core Vietnam Veterans Memorial areas and resources from such activities.
As my Supervisor directed, I have requested the National Park Service employee responsible for reviewing any public gathering permit application, as described above, to respond to the concerns you expressed on the telephone this morning, via E-mail. Thank you for your time.
Robert M. Healy, Jr.
Park Ranger, National Mall and Memorial Parks
In other words the website is lying they have not yet gotten a permit, now is the time to fight with the pen we must get this information out asap....people need to clog their Congressmen and Senators and the National Park Service with E-mails and phone calls! They can't be allowed to be anywhere near any Memorial! Thats what the streets are for the gutter and the garbage. Please forward this far and wide!
I just recieved the following from Ironman0311@aol.com
Veterans, family and friends;
In response to the concerns expressed, I contacted Robin Owen (Person in charge of issuing event permits for the National Mall area) of the National park Service via telephone this morning and was very convincingly informed and assured of the following:
1.) There will be a 300 yard perimeter comprised of double snow fence barriers with an ample number mounted, foot police, riot reaction squad nearby, and intelligence personal on scene, to ensure that the conditions of the permit granted to the antiwar activists are not violated. E.G. the assembly point is in an appointed area on the eastern end of the grounds (Knoll) and they will not be allowed in the proximity of the wall. A Similar exclusion zone applies area and approaches from Constitution Ave. So net effect ... no protesters within 300 yd's.
2.) That ALL laws will be vigorously enforced and prosecuted in terms of any violence, vandalism,or, threat to public safety. This was stated emphatically.
3.) About an hour later, I received a phone call from Sgt, Booker of the Park Police saying he had been asked by Robin Owen to reiterate the policy and to reinforce her statements to me and answer any further questions I may have on the Park Police law enforcement polices.
Sgt. Booker stated even MORE emphatically that the Park Police consider the Wall as sacred ground, as we do, (As did Robin Owen) themselves, and that they WILL enforce any, and all laws, relevant to it's integrity. And, any concerns we may have stemming from the non-enforcement of the law by the Capitol Police last weekend are not relevant to his Dept. They WILL arrest and prosecuted anyone who breaks the law.
4.) The Wall will be open for visiting to the general public as usual ... if any of you care to do so on that day.
Vietnam veterans are asking veterans, their families and friends, active duty military personal, as well as the like-minded public, to join us in emailing, calling, and writing, the National Park Service robbin_owen@nps.gov (1-202 619-7225) and Vietnam Memorial Fund vvmf@vvmf.org (202) 393-0090 Fax: (202) 393-0029 asking them to take any and all legal action to prohibit the planned anti-war demonstration on March 17, 2007 at,the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Further, to demand that the appropriate law enforcement agencies stringently enforce the law as it pertains to defacement of public edifices, monuments, and property.
We are very concerned, in light of recent events, there will be a repetition of the vandalism that occurred at last weekend's antiwar protest has a real potential to reoccur at the upcoming event, and that the police again will be prevented from enforcing the law by their superiors. We will not allow the Vietnam War Memorial be vandalized, spray painted, or in any way be defaced, as was the U.S. Congress during last weekend's antiwar protest when police were ordered to retreat in the face of leftist radicals who defiled our nation's seat of government. If the police are similarly prevented in doing their job as they were in the case of the U.S. Congress, we veterans are more than willing and able to form a "human honor guard" (peacefully) to prevent a similar sacrilege to the nation's property and to what we consider hollowed ground, and our war's collective tombstone.
We do not object to public protest. Many of us have fought, bled, and died, to provide (and protect) the citizenry the right to free assembly.
We do however, strongly object the use of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as a backdrop and stage for political gain. And, we take it as an affront to our fallen comrade-in-arms and to their honor that the antiwar movement's organizers and supporters would be so insensitive, inconsiderate, and boorish, as to even consider it as suitable location for political theater.
It is scared ground and should be considered as such.
This is a very emotional issue to many veterans and the potential for confrontation is very high. In the interest of the sensitivities of the veterans and that of public safety and good order, we ask the you to use your good offices and influence to convince antiwar movement's organizers to reconsider their choice of assembly point, and relocate it to a less emotionally charged area.
Semper Fi
Rick Ironman0311@aol.com
All of this not withstanding, I intend on being in Washington DC on March 17, 07. To make sure the WALL is respected and to show my solidarity with the Troops and their mission and from what I am hearing there will be good sized turnout of Vietnam Veterans...I hope as many of you as possible will join me in this demonstration of patriotism and love for this great country and all that it stands for.
I have always thought that if there was another war after Vietnam that if people like Jane Fonda and her ilk ever protested in the streets while we had troops in the field that I would be in the streets with a baseball bat...well I have mellowed some...I won't hit anyone as long as they don't come near me, I won't chase them down....but I will be there to remind them that the ones who are doing the fighting are the exact ones who give then the right to protest.
And that they are being laughed at by the ones in the darkness.
We of all people, the Vietnam Veterans owe it to these young brave troops to watch their back here at home, because we understand what it is like to be abandoned by our country!
If you need a ride or help getting there please contact me and I will do what I can to help you. Also if you are going for sure and have room to give others rides please let me know so I can put you together with riders.
God Bless our Troops in harm's way and the USA
Viper
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we will be there,
all belonging to me by blood or bond.
TO: kristinn; trooprally; tgslTakoma-- All y'all might be interested in the info from the National Park Service in the middle of posting #40 re perimeters of moonbat permit area. I hope the NPS is not naive about the potential for vandalism at the Vietnam Memorial.
Note: forwarded message attached.
This is true, these people intend to use our fallen warriors to once again shame our nation and troops at war. Vietnam Veterans had to raise the money to have this memorial and to get it built was something akin to birthing a thousand pound child.
When these people use our sacred memorial and the gallant warriors whose names are on it,they tread on ground bought with blood. They also perpetuate the myth we were all unwilling participants in our war and claim we are all in tacit agreement with them. This is a lie and it cannot stand in the bright sun of freedom this time.
I ask all who can be there,especially vets on motorcycles to ride forth and protect our sacred ground.God Bless all of you and our troops taking the fight to our enemies.
LET THE THUNDER ROLL ! !
MAJOR MARK A. (ZIPPO) SMITH
UNITED STATES ARMY ( RETIRED)
FORMER PRISONER OF WAR-VIETNAM
BTTT

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Gathering of Eagles
"A helpless sparrow can drift with the wind. It takes an "Eagle" to fly against the storm."
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The anti-war/anti-America groups are planning a "march to the Pentagon" on March 17, 2007... this group has intentions that defenders of freedom cannot overlook or allow to occur... there must be a challenge.
Here's a portion from the "anti-war" web site March 17 -- March on Pentagon!: Time to Turn Up the Heat! that causes considerable concern: "The biggest single group of new volunteers and activists are soldiers and marines who have returned from Iraq. Their family members and other veterans are also organizing to March on the Pentagon. The opening rally will assemble at the Vietnam Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at noon."
The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Viet Nam Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom and stain the hallowed ground that virtually cries out with blood at the thought of this proposed desecration ... it must not happen.
Many are encouraging a "Gathering of Eagles" (symbolic of our freedom) at the Viet Nam Memorial Wall on March 17, 2007, as a signal that a segment of America does not agree with the "anti-war/anti-America" rally on the same day. As noted above, the anti-war/anti-America crowd is publishing intention to use the Viet Nam Memorial as a backdrop to their rally................this cannot happen...............it cannot go unchallenged.
Based on the input received, here is what is suggested as a means to identify those of us attending/visiting the Viet Nam Memorial wall and other Memorials on March 17, 2007 opposing the anti-war distortions.
We want to send a different message than the "anti-war/anti-America" surrender crowd, so we should be clearly set apart from them.
Wear a Red Armband on the right arm (Red often symbolizes/represents courage, revolution, hardiness, blood, and/or valor) .
On the armband each person should print something, e.g. WWII, Korea, Nam, Iraq, spouse, widow, POW, Vet, Legion, patriot, citizen, etc., or other respectful phrase one wants to help us identify one another.
We need to remember all American's are invited to support our effort which is intended as a defender of hallowed ground and intended as a non-violent competition between those that would sell out America and those of us who support freedom and keeping the fight with the enemy on distant shores.
Many of us will be wearing favorite caps, shirts, jackets, jungle fatigues, desert dress, medals, etc. to include the Red Armband............it will be a grand reunion, a time of new friendships, which will also, God willing, rekindle a new light of American patriotism which would filter down the mall toward the Capitol of the United States.......maybe even the main stream media (MSM)
........obviously more detail is needed which will come as we draw nearer.
We know some of the, who, what, when, why, where, .it's up to each of us to supply the "how".
More details to follow....................
Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret
Visit http://www.independent-patriots-for-america.com and http://www.independent-patriots-for-america.com/patriot-talk/
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Free Republic to get Permit for counter Demonstration
ViperAsh50@aol.com
Feb. 05, 07
Kristinn Taylor the President of the DC Chapter of Free Republic kristinn@bellatlantic.net will be getting a permit for a counter protest on March 17th, 07 in Washington DC...They will set up along the route of the Anti-War Protestors, and we from the "Gathering of Eagles" will be under their permit umbrella. When we are satisfied the Wall is secure and the Park Police have everything under control we can march to where the counter protest will take place to show our support of our troops in the field.
I have also talked to Jeff White, PA, State Council, Vietnam Veterans of America, who has sent out 1500 e-mails. And he has also notified the Gold Star Mothers, and Modern Day Veterans those who have served after 1990.
This morning I also talked to Artie Muller - National Executive Director - of Rolling Thunder, he wants all the information on the "Gathering of Eagles". He has not committed yet, but we can hope.
America must know that there are those of us who know what Anti war protests do to the moral of the troops and who better to let them know than the Vietnam Veterans? We must let our Troops know America is not abandoning another generation of soldiers. These Protesters say they "Support the Troops" how can they possibly believe what they are doing is any way support....What they are doing in reality is what they did to us almost 40 years ago...they are giving our enemies aid and comfort and hope that all they have to do is wait us out...great Americans, Like Jane Fonda. These people are not anti-war they are anti AMERICA!
Anyone who is setting up a convoy or trying to get a bus send me your e-mail and I can put the word out in my "Desk of Viper"
Please forward this mail to all Veterans of all wars to all Veteran organizations to all right thinking Americans forward it on and on and on.
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We have a few convoys of vets headed there from the west starting on March 1st. The intention is to pickup more along the way, get there, link arms and not let any of that trash get near our Hallowed Ground!
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Ok bear with me here as I am a newbie to this....I'm from Northern NJ and I have room in my Escape for 2 more. Would leave Friday the 16th from Northern NJ and return on Sunday the 18th.
Any additional info is gratefully appreciated, I have a little trouble following the threads here, but I'm sure eventually I'll catch on
Great to have you join! There's a parallel thread, trying to coordinate info, especially about anyone offering rides. It isn't showing in the sidebars at the right side of the screen which lists the threads but here's the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777003/posts?page=97#97 Please send a message on that thread to "Just A Nobody" saying you want to be added to the "ping list" so that you'll be included in any generally distributed info over there.
And if you're coming down on Friday, please feel free to attend the troop support rally (anti-code pink rally)that occurs in front of Walter Reed Army Medical Center every friday night. If there isn't a link at the top of the "main" page, search for keyboard "WRAMC". Again, glad you're coming!
BTTT and bookmarked.
These anti-American anarchist / communist scum cannot be allowed to deface Our Sacred Monuments.
See you all in D.C.
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