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Congress gets reports on jailed border patrol agents (Compean and Ramos)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 02/01/2007 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 02/01/2007 10:31:30 AM PST by calcowgirl

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To: CharlesWayneCT

What border security for crying out loud?!!!


21 posted on 02/01/2007 11:29:39 AM PST by Ron H. (Southeast Texas PGR member - Standing Ready in Southeast Texas!)
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To: calcowgirl

Why is this document classified?????? Other than documenting how this country is being overrun by illegal aliens across an open southern border, what part of it concerns national security? This just wreaks of cover-up!


22 posted on 02/01/2007 11:31:07 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: TruthConquers

I think John and Ken may have that wrong:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776900/posts

The report is being viewed by select members in what's known as the "SCIF" — the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility — and is not allowed to be removed.


23 posted on 02/01/2007 11:32:43 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Why is this document classified??????

Bump! Question of the day.

24 posted on 02/01/2007 11:33:33 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Well, we are at war, the borders are critical, and we wouldn't want to reveal anything about border security to our enemies.

You funny!

25 posted on 02/01/2007 11:34:16 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ron H.
It seems hard to fathom just what could be involved that our nations national security could be at risk by revealing the contents of this report.

I would expect that specific data regarding the tactics, equipment and communication capabilities of our border enforcement services coupled with intimate details of border control procedures would be useful to groups that want to sneak something far more dangerous than a van full of landscapers over the border.

26 posted on 02/01/2007 11:34:41 AM PST by wideawake
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To: calcowgirl

I will have to see if it is on their web page. They were talking about that room, thought it was a funny "lets be spies" kind of name.

I could be wrong, though.

Still, why is it redacted for the public, why is the trail transcript sealed for a year? The whole thing stinks.


27 posted on 02/01/2007 11:43:21 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: wideawake

The question is NOT about border security, illegals, or drugs. The question should be did these agents commit the crimes that a jury thought they did?


28 posted on 02/01/2007 11:43:31 AM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: Ron H.

Hey! Sandy!!!!

Do we have a job for you, guy.


Paging Mr. Bergler. Paging Mr. Bergler


29 posted on 02/01/2007 11:46:06 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: neverhillorat
The question should be did these agents commit the crimes that a jury thought they did?

Um, the jury has spoken.

What Congress thinks is an opinion. What the jury thinks is a verdict.

30 posted on 02/01/2007 11:49:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
I would expect that specific data regarding the tactics, equipment and communication capabilities of our border enforcement services coupled with intimate details of border control procedures would be useful to groups that want to sneak something far more dangerous than a van full of landscapers over the border.

So the US Prosecutor risks all this to nab 2 BP agents that requires granting immunity to a Mexican nation smuggler!?!? I would certainly expect a US prosecutor to weight that risk before carrying out a prosecution of dubious merit like this!
31 posted on 02/01/2007 11:49:55 AM PST by RushingWater
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To: TomGuy
Why is it you can never find a burglar when you need one.
32 posted on 02/01/2007 11:56:14 AM PST by Tarheel (If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere... Rudy--2008)
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To: RushingWater
So the US Prosecutor risks all this

The prosecutor didn't risk this. Congress is.

Certain Congressmen are hoping that by exploiting this case for its grandstanding value they will get some political mileage that could possibly further their aspirations to other national offices.

33 posted on 02/01/2007 11:57:55 AM PST by wideawake
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To: RushingWater

So, do you think that all Border Patrol agents should be able to shoot anybody they want at the Border? Cause if we are a Nation of Law, the only way these two can get away with what they did, is to have a different set of rules just for them.


34 posted on 02/01/2007 1:04:09 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Why is this document classified?

It could be a cover-up, in which case the classification was misused.

Or it could mean that Aldrete-Davila was a snitch who was being protected while he got to have fun and make money.

And unfortunately, he gets shot by a couple of agents who aren't in on the deal.

Of course, since he seemed like an ordinary border crossing, pot smuggling, people killing illegal alien to them, they reacted normally to such swine when he made a few bad moves: they shot his butt.

Be interesting to see where this falls.

35 posted on 02/01/2007 1:10:44 PM PST by Regulator
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To: calcowgirl

Duncan Hunter was on Cavuto this afternoon. He said he's read the trial transcript and is very unhappy these guys have been sentenced for more time than someone usually gets for murder in this country.


36 posted on 02/01/2007 1:59:33 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: wideawake; CharlesWayneCT
Duncan Hunter was on Cavuto this afternoon. He said he's read the trial transcript and is very unhappy these guys have been sentenced for more time than someone usually gets for murder in this country.

Interesting, he read the transcripts and is no longer questioning the felony convictions.

37 posted on 02/01/2007 2:04:22 PM PST by PRND21 (R)
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To: isthisnickcool

After reading all the updates in the last few days, not sure what to believe anymore.

If its true, the smuggler was caught a second time with more dope with no mention yet of a Weapon and then Sutton got rid of this incident. The BP agents need to set free.

Need the AG to give immunity to the BP agents families so they can discuss those items covered by the gag order.

As time goes by, will anyone trust a prosectuing attorny?


38 posted on 02/01/2007 2:06:48 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: PRND21

Sounds like he's joined the sane people again. I think most of us would agree that, given the evidence we have been able to see, the guys shouldn't be in prison for that long.

Although I'm pretty sure that I'd be upset if a murderer wasn't in jail for longer than 11 years, as well, so it isn't just that they got too harsh of a sentence, it's that others get off too easy.

I wonder if there is parole offered under their sentencing?

I wonder if Bush could pardon them on the one count which added the 10 years, thus essentially reducing their sentence?


39 posted on 02/01/2007 2:10:48 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

Prediction: these poor devils will be put away for many years, just like the Branch Davidians.
The real truth will NEVER be known.

The next president will appoint Ex Senator Danforth to investigate, he will come back with another whitewash. All the details will be hidden under the old "national security" rug.


40 posted on 02/01/2007 2:11:07 PM PST by Howie
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