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Congress gets reports on jailed border patrol agents (Compean and Ramos)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 02/01/2007 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 02/01/2007 10:31:30 AM PST by calcowgirl

Long-awaited incident reports regarding the case of two convicted El Paso Border Patrol agents were delivered to Congress on Monday evening but have been classified secret from the general public.

The Homeland Security Subcommittee on Management, Investment and Oversight obtained the report after submitting an emergency Freedom of Information Act request for the documents.

Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, said he will not review the classified documents until they are made available to the public. Poe expects a redacted version will be made available soon.

"I want to read what the public will get to read," Poe said. "The real question regarding this case is, why did the federal government spend so much money to prosecute these Border Patrol agents and give full immunity to a known drug smuggler with more than $1 million of marijuana in his vehicle? I'm anticipating the report, but I don't suspect it will answer the question."

After five months of delays, the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General delivered the documents pertaining to the case of former Border Patrol agents Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, who were convicted last March of the nonfatal shooting of a Mexican drug smuggler.

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said last week that Homeland Security Inspector General Richard Skinner refused to deliver what he had promised House members since September.

McCaul was one of the first House members to have the classified report but he cannot speak on the contents of it.

"The only people who can view the report are the members of Congress," said Jack Hirschfield, spokesman for McCaul. "Within the next few weeks we will get a redacted report that the public can view."

Reps. John Culberson, Kenny Marchant, McCaul and Poe - all Republicans who represent Texas - said Skinner told them during their meeting last fall that Ramos and Compean had confessed to knowingly shooting at an unarmed suspect and that they "were out to shoot Mexicans."

Ramos and Compean are now serving 11 and 12 years, respectively, in federal prison. The drug smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, is suing the U.S. Border Patrol for $5 million.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; borderpatrol; compean; immigrantlist; michaelmccaul; outtoshootmexicans; ramos; tedpoe
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1 posted on 02/01/2007 10:31:37 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Ajnin; Calpernia; christynsoldier; Cyropaedia; dennisw; Digger; dirtboy; DumpsterDiver; ...

Minor progress Ping.


2 posted on 02/01/2007 10:32:20 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

I'm not sure what went on with this case but at some point of Ted Poe says they are innocent or guilty I'll go along with what he says. Ted Poe is a stand up guy.


3 posted on 02/01/2007 10:34:19 AM PST by isthisnickcool (The only reason you are still conscious is because I don't want to carry you- J. Bauer)
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To: calcowgirl

Only in America


4 posted on 02/01/2007 10:34:29 AM PST by wastedyears ( "Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: calcowgirl
Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, said he will not review the classified documents until they are made available to the public.

Seems kinda silly...Read the damn thing.

5 posted on 02/01/2007 10:35:27 AM PST by PRND21 (R)
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To: calcowgirl
have been classified secret from the general public

The NYT can print our National classified secrets on its front page, but this document probably never will. Ironic.
6 posted on 02/01/2007 10:38:13 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
The NYT can print our National classified secrets on its front page, but this document probably never will. Ironic.

I honestly don't understand why any of this information is considered "Secret". The smuggler was a common criminal and the agents are employees of the federal government. Why should the whole, unredacted document not be released?

7 posted on 02/01/2007 10:44:17 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Did Bin Laddie get his cop of the report? Thought so.


8 posted on 02/01/2007 11:05:28 AM PST by Waco
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To: calcowgirl

coverup


9 posted on 02/01/2007 11:05:58 AM PST by righteousindignation
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To: calcowgirl

It's funny that Poe has all these questions, and he begs for a report, and when it comes, he refuses to look at it because he's afraid he might leak classified information, so he decides to wait until DHS can give him a redacted version that will be missing information that might answer his questions.

And while saying he won't read the report that might answer his questions, he complains that he doesn't have the answers to his questions.

But I say, give the man credit for admitting he can't be trusted with classified information, most congresspeople can't but they don't let that stop them.


10 posted on 02/01/2007 11:06:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

Well, we are at war, the borders are critical, and we wouldn't want to reveal anything about border security to our enemies.


11 posted on 02/01/2007 11:08:07 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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ping


12 posted on 02/01/2007 11:10:08 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: calcowgirl
Poe expects a redacted version will be made available soon.

Redacted? That means they have something to hide.

13 posted on 02/01/2007 11:14:02 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

This report does not make it clear, but I heard on John and Ken (KFI AM radio here in so cal) that the congress men will only see a redacted report as well.


NO ONE IS SEEING THE REPORT UN- REDACTED.

I think that might be why this representative is waiting, he won't learn anything more than us peons will.


14 posted on 02/01/2007 11:14:38 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What border security?


15 posted on 02/01/2007 11:18:50 AM PST by biff
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"Well, we are at war, the borders are critical, and we wouldn't want to reveal anything about border security to our enemies."

Seeing as our national government obviously does not see our porous borders as a security threat and as our southern boarder is a wide open war zone of assorted illegals, criminals and other enemies of this Country, I assume your post was sarcasm.
16 posted on 02/01/2007 11:19:07 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: TruthConquers
NO ONE IS SEEING THE REPORT UN- REDACTED.

Incorrect.

17 posted on 02/01/2007 11:19:09 AM PST by wideawake
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To: TruthConquers

If it's already redacted, it wouldn't be classified. If it is redacted but still has some classified information, and he waits for THAT version, it won't be the same version.

If the only reason for it being kept unpublic has nothing to do with classification, the congressman can just read it into the record to declassify it.

On the other hand, if others who are fighting the BP agent case have already SEEN the report, and realise it does nothing to help them, and in fact will embarrass them to keep talking about, they may have told Poe not to look at it, so he could be the new spokesperson for their cause, since if the report DOES come out he can truthfully say it isn't his fault he was so wrong, because he never saw the report.


18 posted on 02/01/2007 11:20:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

Follow the pot


19 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:33 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: TomGuy
The NYT can print our National classified secrets on its front page, but this document probably never will. Ironic.

It seems hard to fathom just what could be involved that our nations national security could be at risk by revealing the contents of this report. Sounds like an attempted cover-up is in progress here for someone or a group of someones. Now I wonder who the chief someone could be?!

20 posted on 02/01/2007 11:27:46 AM PST by Ron H. (Southeast Texas PGR member - Standing Ready in Southeast Texas!)
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