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Britain has been deploying teens to Iraq
upi ^ | 2/3/2007 | upi

Posted on 02/03/2007 4:34:10 AM PST by Flavius

LONDON, Feb. 2 (UPI) -- The British Ministry of Defense has acknowledged that at least 15 17-year-old soldiers have been deployed to Iraq, violating a United Nations protocol.

Four of the teenagers were female, The Scotsman reported.

Britain signed the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Involvement of Children in Armed Conflict in 2003 -- the year it joined the coalition invading Iraq. Under the protocol, no one under 18 should be deployed in combat unless there are exceptional circumstances.

"Unfortunately, these processes are not infallible and the pressures on units prior to deployment have meant that there has been a small number of instances where soldiers have been inadvertently deployed to Iraq before their 18th birthday," the ministry said in a statement.

Teenagers, especially 16- and 17-year-olds have become a major source of recruits for the Army. More than half of those who joined last year were under 18.


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UN the world nagging nanny.

Incidentally to borrow from Dr.Savage, the enemy is lucky the British have not started to deploy the soccer fans. Wars would be over to fast then

They like 20 against 1 of them odds, and they come unarmed and are feared...

anywho

1 posted on 02/03/2007 4:34:13 AM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius
"Britain signed the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Involvement of Children in Armed Conflict in 2003 -- the year it joined the coalition invading Iraq. Under the protocol, no one under 18 should be deployed in combat unless there are exceptional circumstances."

Since it is optional, no harm done...

2 posted on 02/03/2007 4:42:28 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: MadIvan

ping...


3 posted on 02/03/2007 4:43:15 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Flavius
In the HIstory of America, especially in the Revolutionary War period, the median age of soldiers in the Continental Army was quite low. I would have to check, but I believe it was 17 yoa, with many of the soldiers being 14 or 15.

Young men, dedicated to the cause and properly led, make good soldiers.

It is the same with the British military. Midshipmen in the British Navy in the old days were often barely pubescent. They assisted and often engaged in combat operations.In this way, great soldiers and leaders are created.

I do not believe that the assigning of 17 years olds to combat is predefined as wrong.

I was wearing a cadet uniform when I was 14 years of age, and would not trade that experoience for any thing. There are millions like me in the USA, and thankfully so.

The UN seeks to brand a free society, which is empowered by patriots, with the same tools as they used for the Khmer Rouge, which used mindless masses of armed children to perpetrate terror and tyranny.

Britain should not take THAT without a livid, pointed response to our whacko UN misanthrops, who themselves in majority go to bed with Islamofascists and tyrants who cannnot, or willfully do not separate the youthful, trained patriots of a free society from the use of children as mindless killers and genocidal lunatics.

To all but the liberal whackos among us, there is a significant difference.

4 posted on 02/03/2007 4:49:38 AM PST by Candor7 (The most dangerous men and women in the nation are frustrated leftists.)
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To: Candor7

"kids" that volunteer at 17 to face incoming bullets, are worth more then battalions of politicians and administration clerks


5 posted on 02/03/2007 4:54:21 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Candor7
The UN seeks to brand a free society, which is empowered by patriots, with the same tools as they used for the Khmer Rouge, which used mindless masses of armed children to perpetrate terror and tyranny.

It's not exactly the same as the child armies of Africa.

My great grandfather went to fight in WWI at 16.
6 posted on 02/03/2007 5:04:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Flavius

As long their parents gave their consent, the UN should keep their mouths shut.

In the US, a 17-year-old can join any branch of the Armed Forces with their parents' consent. They just do their basic training in the summer between their junior and senior years in high school, and then they do their technical training (AIT, tech school, whatever you want to call it) after they graduate from high school.


7 posted on 02/03/2007 5:04:52 AM PST by YoungAmerican84 (Honorary member of the World Zionist Conspiracy)
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To: Flavius

War, if nothing else, is definitely a young man's game. The physical strain, the carnage, the mental and emotional limits of human endurance, are better handled by 16-19 year olds who are remarkably resilient. A teenager believes himself to be invincible, thus they make a better soldier. Also, a teenager is willing to take more chances than an older soldier.


8 posted on 02/03/2007 5:22:23 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: Flavius
violating a United Nations protocol.

Yawn.

9 posted on 02/03/2007 5:23:31 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Candor7
Well, this young man here, Joe Argenzio, landed on Omaha Beach at the age of 16 and by the age of 19, was one of the the toughest sergeants in the 1st Division (the Big Red 1). I saw him on an episode of Shootout! on the History Channel was enthralled by his story. Not that I advocate putting kids into battle, but historically, teenagers have made some of the best soldiers because of their youth and energy.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,111735,00.html

http://www.vmi.edu/archives/Adams_Center/ArgenzioJL/ArgenzioJL_intro.asp

10 posted on 02/03/2007 5:49:21 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Flavius
I don't so much mind 16 or 17 year old boys in combat; many of my ancestors did likewise.

But imagine what would happen if a 17-year-old girl got captured by the Mahometan fiends. This is not good strategic thinking on the part of the Ministry of Defence.

-ccm

11 posted on 02/03/2007 6:03:17 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Flavius

I was 17 when I enlisted during 'nam, so what?


12 posted on 02/03/2007 6:05:50 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

As the UN is SOOOOO concerned with "youth" (teenagers in combat), then they need to express their outrage at the gang-bangers in South-Central LA, and all the other cities across not only the US, but the World where gangs rule the streets - and fight it out regularly...

After all - they are "combatants" as well....

And I have been waiting for several years now for someone - ANYONE to explain what direct benefit the US gets from being a member of the UN and dishing out the billions of dollars we give them.

I have yet to see a "humanitarian" mission by the UN that could not have been handled more efficiently and less expensively than we could have done it on our own. I have yet to see any sort of "peacekeeping" mission that has ever been REALLY successful anywhere that wasn't already stabilized or could have been easily without the UN...


So what is the real purpose?


13 posted on 02/03/2007 6:11:06 AM PST by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Flavius

When I was growing up, my grandfather used to love to tell stories about how he lied about his age and got away with it to fight in WWII.


14 posted on 02/03/2007 6:25:50 AM PST by USMCWife6869
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To: cripplecreek
Agreed. Its funny the lengths that the Liberals will go in an attempt to redefine history. History will save us from them.
15 posted on 02/03/2007 6:29:36 AM PST by Candor7 (The most dangerous men and women in the nation are frustrated leftists.)
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To: Flavius
"kids" that volunteer at 17 to face incoming bullets, are worth more then battalions of politicians and administration clerks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You bet!

Those "kids" are heros and the foundation of the republic. Bless them all!

16 posted on 02/03/2007 6:32:10 AM PST by Candor7 (The most dangerous men and women in the nation are frustrated leftists.)
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To: Flavius

LOL! at the UN, who thinks that on their 18th birthday, something magical happens to a young man or woman that immediately lessens the value of his or her life.

ALL of our young men and women are precious to us, and we're proud of them if they choose to serve their country in the armed forces!


17 posted on 02/03/2007 7:48:57 AM PST by BMIC
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To: Flavius
I highly recommend Don Burgett's book "Seven Roads to Hell." It deals with his experiences during WWII with the 101st Airborne. By the time he was 19 he had jumped into Normandy, fought in Operation Market Garden, and survived the Battle of the Bulge.
18 posted on 02/03/2007 8:53:59 AM PST by JGT
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...violating a United Nations protocol.

I fart in the direction of Turtle Bay...even if it is out of range.

5.56mm

19 posted on 02/03/2007 8:58:39 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: cripplecreek
There was a twelve-year-old who joined the US Navy after Pearl Harbor and served on the battleship USS South Dakota until he was wounded in combat off Guadalcanal. He was given a discharge and sent home until he turned seventeen, at which time he rejoined the Navy.
20 posted on 02/03/2007 9:03:49 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I see storms on the horizon.)
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