Many arrested randomly in immigration raids

San Bernardino Sun ^ | 2/3/07 | Monica Rodriguez

[Mike Darancette]

Down syndrome?

[HAL9000]

You are a lawful American citizen, or so I assume.

I am a natural-born American citizen, and as far as I know, all of my ancestors for at least six generations were too - although there was one Cherokee whose citizenship status I'm not sure about. And I'm mostly lawful.

But the article said "All people in the United States legally must have the documentation with them at all times that permits them to be in the country". Taken literally, that would mean you and I would have to carry our "papers" everywhere. I didn't really believe that was the case, and I would oppose such a regulation.

[relee]

Taken literally, that would mean you and I would have to carry our "papers" everywhere

Your papers, please - A Washington Times editorial.

...and on June 21, 2004, the USSC ruled against Dudley Hiibel.

[Lurker]

I would oppose such a regulation.

As would I.

Take care,

L

[LowOiL]

I don't think they were married. They don't have the same last names.

They often don't, one for being illegal makes it hard to get married, second because they often have a first wife/children in another country.

[HAL9000]

Thanks for reminding me of that. But there were some several complicating factors involved, including a Nevada state law which states "The officer may detain the person pursuant to this section only to ascertain his identity and the suspicious circumstances surrounding his presence abroad. Any person so detained shall identify himself, but may not be compelled to answer any other inquiry of any peace officer."

The U.S. Supreme Court decision said - "As we understand it, the statute does not require a suspect to give the officer a driver's license or any other document. Provided that the suspect either states his name or communicates it to the officer by other means--a choice, we assume, that the suspect may make--the statute is satisfied and no violation occurs."

So neither the Nevada statue, nor the Hiibel decision, seem to be a case about "papers" per se. My impression is that the decision was primarily about States Rights, and it should not be mistaken for a non-existent federal requirement to carry and produce identification documents at all times. If Hiibell had simply stated his name accurately to the police officer who was conducting an investigation, that would have been a reasonable conclusion to the matter.

[TheLion]

Ping!

[TheLion]

Heaven forbid that we require someone to be here legally! /sar

[esoxmagnum]

That is a "spot on" commentary.

Hats off to you.

[wolfcreek]

You forgot your right to privacy....after some illegal steals your ID.

[gubamyster]

ping

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

America is at that awkward stage.
It is too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards.
- Claire Wolfe

The time will be when the civil MASTERS declare America is just part of the Norte America Union.

[oldenuff2no]

I keep telling people that it's time to start playing cowboys and Mexicans. It's time to take off the kid gloves and start deporting every illegal that can be found.

[taxed2death]

"He's exasperated,"


too bad.