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Vanity: And now for the rest of the question: Has conservatism been defeated in America?

Posted on 02/04/2007 3:01:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Accoring to Chuck Schumer, tonight on H&C, it's done, over, fini /s


321 posted on 02/05/2007 8:33:29 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Jim Robinson
Would you accept a gay agenda/NARAL supporting abortionist gun-grabber as your party's savior against Hillary Clinton even if it means we abandon the pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom of religion and pro-gun planks from the party's platform?

I'd say that the answer to that is NO, Alex.
322 posted on 02/05/2007 11:16:51 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Hawthorn
A steely determination to win the war on terror is really all that matters for the time being. Let us choose a leader with that quality above all others.

Let's do that. Clearly, this would place a mayor so far out of the running when compared to the former chairman of the armed services committee - or even a senator who was a Vietnam POW, it's not even funny.
323 posted on 02/05/2007 11:18:44 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: airborne

have you thought about how the dispersal of New Orleans democrat base will affect the electoral vote of Louisiana?


324 posted on 02/05/2007 11:25:03 PM PST by nepppen (RESISTANCE IS FUTILE..............DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT..............)
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To: Afronaut

Hear, hear Afronaut. I'm a proud conservative and take pride in praising or eviscerating the Republican party based on their adherance to, or abandonment of, this ideology. If the northeastern powerbrokers work overtime and Newt/Tancredo/Hunter split the conservative vote, we may very well see a situation in which Rudy gets the nomination with a minority of the vote.

In such a scenario I will proudly cast my vote for the Constitution party and work overtime to ensure the defeat of both the democratic candidate and Rudy.

My vote is owned by no political machine.


325 posted on 02/05/2007 11:26:16 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson
Could be thats is over..

I suggest a Conservative caucus... trumping party..
A caucus that will support various candidates democrat or republican..
If they match a/the platform... and to the degree they match it..

But Free Republic is a kind of caucus...
On second thoughts it could be like herding cats..

326 posted on 02/05/2007 11:44:14 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Old_Mil
Glad to see you highlight the word "Mayor."

I cannot believe we have fallen so far into the abyss that such a remarkably unqualified person would even be considered for the position of President of the United States.

Issues aside...what a joke!

327 posted on 02/05/2007 11:48:21 PM PST by garandgal
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To: garandgal

Bump


328 posted on 02/06/2007 4:37:34 AM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Hawthorn
A steely determination to win the war on terror is really all that matters for the time being. Let us choose a leader with that quality above all others.

1000% correct. All of the pro-things listed above mean nothing as long as Islamofascists ar trying to chink away at our armor bit by bit t get at our soft underbelly.

329 posted on 02/06/2007 7:06:14 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69; Hawthorne
1000% correct. All of the pro-things listed above mean nothing as long as Islamofascists ar trying to chink away at our armor bit by bit t get at our soft underbelly.

So even though as many people are aborted every day as were killed in one day during 9/11, abortion is secondary to the WOT.

I beg to differ.

330 posted on 02/06/2007 7:10:03 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nepppen
have you thought about how the dispersal of New Orleans democrat base will affect the electoral vote of Louisiana?

Not really. I've been busy with my son's hockey team.

8^)

331 posted on 02/06/2007 7:14:28 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: dirtboy
So even though as many people are aborted every day as were killed in one day during 9/11, abortion is secondary to the WOT. I beg to differ.

Fair enough, but your priority is just not going to be the leading issue in 2008.

332 posted on 02/06/2007 7:23:25 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
Fair enough, but your priority is just not going to be the leading issue in 2008.

If you want to win the election, it doesn't have to be the leading issue. But it also cannot be discarded if the GOP wants to hold the base and draw Reagan Democrats back into the party.

333 posted on 02/06/2007 7:27:15 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: CobaltBlue
Whereas, the so-called "social conservatives" don't give a flip about free minds or free markets.

Wrong-o Mary lou. I am all for government being as small as possible and as local as possible. I used to be laissez-faire but now hold to a slightly modified version of capitalism. It is the free marketeers who seem to think that as long as people are buying and selling it doesn't matter why kind of culture we live in.

334 posted on 02/06/2007 6:53:02 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

"Slightly modified version of capitalism."

I think not.

If you don't believe in free markets, then you don't believe in free markets, and there's an end to it.

You're just another collectivist, you just hate to be outed.

But you outed yourself. Thanks.


335 posted on 02/06/2007 8:24:37 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Ah, a true-blue Randista. Her ideology seems to breed a virulent strain of ideologues. Thats why I no longer *believe*.
336 posted on 02/07/2007 3:35:51 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

Well, I do admire Ayn Rand, but my true heroes are Adam Smith, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher.

But it's interesting that you're willing to admit that you are not a capitalist, nor do you admire capitalism.

I've often said that so-called "social conservatives" do not give a flip for capitalism, free minds, or free markets.

I believe that capitalism and free markets are essential for human advancement, and I suggest to you that if you don't, then you are the RINO.


337 posted on 02/07/2007 7:37:31 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
But it's interesting that you're willing to admit that you are not a capitalist, nor do you admire capitalism.

Please post the number of my post where I said this. It is the equivalent of saying that because I do not believe in public education, therefore I am against education. I no longer subscribe to laissez-faire capitalism, therefore I must be a communist. Randinistas are not known for nuance in the realm of ideas.

338 posted on 02/08/2007 2:56:27 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

What do you support in the place of laissez faire?


339 posted on 02/08/2007 6:41:58 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Interesting that Reagan is one of your heroes, I admire him as well. Are you familiar with what he did for Harley-Davidson?
340 posted on 02/08/2007 8:07:38 PM PST by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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