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Orwell’s “Catalonia” revisited (The George Orwell Most Forget)
The New Criterion ^ | February 2007 | Anthony Daniels

Posted on 02/05/2007 6:20:39 AM PST by shrinkermd

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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Orwell was clearly a product of his age. But it is equally clear that he was in the process of rising above some of that influence.

In my opinion he was a better man than FDR, though not as good as Churchill.


21 posted on 02/05/2007 2:37:38 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Sign says, "No dogs allowed -- except seeing-eye dogs" Why don't they put that sign down lower?)
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If you really, really, really like Orwell. And I mean really, check out the book: Essays By George Orwell.

It is an extensive collection of most of his writings in journals and newspapers from the late 20's until 1949. He reviews books, writes short commentaries on politics and religion and gives great little snapshots into what life was like in Britain during his life. The book is nearly 1300 pages but well worth reading it.

22 posted on 02/05/2007 2:39:00 PM PST by Sawdring
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Orwell was clearly a product of his age. But it is equally clear that he was in the process of rising above some of that influence.

Pity he didn't live a few more years, we would have seen whether he would have abandoned socialism completely, or not!

In my opinion he was a better man than FDR, though not as good as Churchill.

That's an accurate description, I wonder what Orwell thought of the New Deal? ;)

23 posted on 02/05/2007 2:52:55 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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Pity he didn't live a few more years, we would have seen whether he would have abandoned socialism completely, or not!

He predicted the collapse of Soviet system and return of capitalism - in Animal Farm.

24 posted on 02/05/2007 3:35:23 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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Ah.. I was a bit puzzled by that last bit of the book!

It's only 50+ pages long, I read it one evening, maybe I would have been better to read it over a couple of days! ;)


25 posted on 02/05/2007 3:54:53 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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Golly gee willikers, I wonder why you would bring me into the discussion. :-)

When analyzing the works of Orwell or Huxley's "Brave New World" you have to take into account the period in which they wrote and not just look back on it with the benefit that we have of 20/20 hindsight.

Granted, Orwell was a Socialist. I'm sure he meant well...the idea sounded good in theory...everybody is equal, there is no hunger or poverty or class warfare. But this was in the 1940's, long before the experiment had proven to be a failure in reality as seen in Cuba, USSR, California.

Orwell's vision of a state in which the Gubmint used technology through telescreens which monitored their citizens every move wasn't wrong per se...he just didn't realize 60 years ago that the same technology could be used by the masses through mediums like the internet and sites like FR, or radio hosts like Rush, Hannity or Levin or cable TV with channels like FOX that could break the hold of carefully orchestrated left wing propaganda. (see the Global Warming fraud)


26 posted on 02/05/2007 7:53:40 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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Golly gee willikers, I wonder why you would bring me into the discussion. :-)

I saw your screenname pop up before, figured you might be interested in this thread! :)

When analyzing the works of Orwell or Huxley's "Brave New World" you have to take into account the period in which they wrote and not just look back on it with the benefit that we have of 20/20 hindsight.

True, Huxley was in many ways Orwell's counterpart - representive of Fascist-leaning ideology, both in the end started to see the fallacies of their respective ideologies.

Granted, Orwell was a Socialist. I'm sure he meant well...the idea sounded good in theory...everybody is equal, there is no hunger or poverty or class warfare. But this was in the 1940's, long before the experiment had proven to be a failure in reality as seen in Cuba, USSR, California.

Yeah, I generally look more favourably on the Old Left than I do with the modern left - they could be given the benifit of the doubt considering, as you have said, that socialism wasn't yet proven to be flawed, plus; there was extreme poverty in the West until the '50s (resolved by the Free Market, of course).

They may have had flawed ideas, but they also had a moral compass - something modern-day liberals wholly lack!

Orwell's vision of a state in which the Gubmint used technology through telescreens which monitored their citizens every move wasn't wrong per se...he just didn't realize 60 years ago...

I would imagine if the technology we had today was controlled centrally, the results would be far different than what we know today!

27 posted on 02/06/2007 12:58:00 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned David Horowitz, to provide a very contemporaneous example. He's such a good resource for conservatives.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/index.asp


28 posted on 02/22/2007 4:43:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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