[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this outdoors list, mostly rural issues, please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Perhaps a little off topic, but not that far off.

[Jet Jaguar]

Not far off at all. Thanks for the ping.

[buschbaby]

Thanks for the ping, very appropriate topic.

I admire the job Rudy did after 9/11, but he is way too liberal for me. I understand the NYers loving him and to them he might be conservative, but not to us in fly-over country.

I have 5 main issues I look for in a candidate. Rudy only supports one of those.

Those of you who keep yelling "only Rudy can beat Hitlery" I disagree. I cannot see middle America voting for him. They still treasure family values and Rudy is sadly lacking in that department.