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American Dream, Downsized
The Nation ^ | February 6, 2007 | Andrew Lam

Posted on 02/06/2007 10:21:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

San Francisco

In my apartment building people of various income levels are stacked on top of each other. The architect and the teacher occupy one-bedroom apartments on the floor above me. They are considered middle-class and, for that matter, so am I. An affluent, well-traveled couple lives in a two-bedroom apartment on the top floor. A poor Chinese immigrant family of five is crammed into the converted storage room where half a dozen bicycles were once kept, their children often turning the foyer into a makeshift playground strewn with plastic toys.

This is typical of the way we live in urban areas around the world: people of various classes live right next to, if not on top of, one another. We share the same address, practically, but occupy a very different sense of space. And just like those in the middle of my building, the middle class everywhere is feeling the pinch.

For the first time in human history there are more people living in urban areas than rural, and cities have grown like amoeba into megacities--so crowded that they have become virtual countries with complex ecosystems unto themselves. Tokyo leads the pack with 31 million residents. Seoul has 23 million, followed by New York and Bombay.

Living space, unless one belongs to that tiny percentage called the upper class, is shrinking as the human population continues to grow. While the rural poor leave open sky and rolling plains to flock to the edge of the metropolis--they crowd into ramshackle slums in the third world, or one-room units in the first--the middle class is clinging to its precious status by contending with far smaller living spaces than those of previous generations.

I remember when a middle-class family could own a Victorian home in San Francisco. Now such a home would be divided into three or four units, each remodeled and sold to an upper middle-class couple.

Case in point: I went with some friends to look at a two-bedroom house the other day. It's a bungalow that was once the home of a working-class family in the 50s. Now, with skyrocketing prices and a prime location, it's out of reach for my friend, who is a single lawyer. The little house was going for a little over $1.3 million dollars. "My American dream," she said with a sigh, "has just been seriously downsized."

Of course, the further you go from the city, the more space you can afford. But there's a catch: if you want more space you'll likely have to exchange it for your time. The price tag for a front yard and back garden can be a four-hour commute every day.

Shrinking along with the American dream of home ownership is the size of the family. Fewer adults are having children. Once a rural necessity, having children in an urban setting is no longer as vital. In megacities like New York, Tokyo, Paris and Hong Kong, the birth rate is on a steep decline. After all, having a child could mean sliding from the middle class to the standard living of the poor, with a crib in the walk-in closet, a garden on the fire escape. Hong Kong, which has the highest human density in the world, also has one of the lowest birth rates: 0.93 per couple last year. A room of one's own may be all the space one has, if one is lucky.

Today a condo is what most in the middle class can hope for in places like San Francisco or New York. I suspect that in another generation or two, middle-class homes in American cities will look like those of Tokyo today--which is to say, the size of a train compartment.

That Japanese minimalism has become the dominant style in the modern world is no fluke. Bigger was once said to be better, but what's chic and ultramodern today--what fits--is smaller and streamlined. The laptop takes no space at all, the iPod is the size of a credit card, the stereo system that once occupied a generous portion of a living room is now so flat and ridiculously thin that you can hardly see it behind the rhododendrons, and the TV that once took too much space on top of the sideboard now hangs on the wall like a mirror. "I used to dream of a house with a nice backyard," a friend of mine quipped, "but now I am just happy with a flat and a flat-screen TV." It's no surprise that Ikea, the global furniture store that takes maximization of living space seriously, is doing so splendidly.

Last night, two homeless men had a row near my apartment building. There's a little space between two columns in front of a boarded-up store that's protected from the wind, a much-coveted place to sleep. The man who regularly made a bed there found someone else in his digs. "This is my space!" he screamed at the crasher, and several well-dressed young people who walked by snickered.

To young people, "MySpace" as a phrase has a totally different connotation, evoking the virtual neighborhood where real estate is still plentiful and cheap. In 2050, nervous demographers tell us, there will be 9 billion of us. It is probably why so many of us now, feeling the onset of collective claustrophobia, spend an inordinate amount of our time logging in.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bubble; genx; homosexualagenda; housing
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1 posted on 02/06/2007 10:21:20 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

nobody is forcing them to live in cities.

nobody is forcing liberal cities to enact rent controls that drive up prices.

There are plenty of places where the land is cheap, the air is clean, and there's plenty of space to roam.

However I'd prefer liberals stay in the cities.


2 posted on 02/06/2007 10:24:43 PM PST by flashbunny (<---------- Hate RINOs? Click my name for 2008 GOP RINO collector cards.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I've a 1455 sq ft condo. OK, its minimalist with small rooms side by side. But compared to a generation ago, I get three bedrooms and two bathrooms. In Europe, shoebox condos are overpriced. I get a better deal in America.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hey....Everyone is equal under Socialism...This person should be happy that the tyrant Bush will be outa office in a year and some months...They need to think about the coming Democrat revolution.../s


4 posted on 02/06/2007 10:28:50 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like a recipe for insanity. I'll stick with my small town and the 2400 sq ft house on an acre. That's just the right size for two people.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 10:29:47 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Don't live in San Francisco if you can't afford it.


6 posted on 02/06/2007 10:31:17 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood
Don't live in San Francisco if you can't afford it.

You should have stopped after the first four words.

7 posted on 02/06/2007 10:33:34 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It's time our lawmakers paid more attention to their responsibilities, and less to their privileges.)
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To: Dallas59
To the Left, every one has a tiny dwelling under the watchful eye of Big Brother. Straight out of 1984

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 02/06/2007 10:34:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Here's a quote for you:

"If you allotted 1,250 square feet to each person, all the
people in the world would fit into the state of Texas.
Try the math yourself: 7,438,152,268,800 square feet in
Texas, divided by the world population of 5,860,000,000,
equals 1269 square feet per person. The population density
of this giant city would be about 21,000 somewhat more than
San Francisco and less than the Bronx."


9 posted on 02/06/2007 10:39:21 PM PST by donna
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To: MinorityRepublican

My American Dream hasn't been down-sized.

My husband and I live in California, in a fairly large city (500,000+).

My husband is active-duty military. I am a stay-home wife. We just entered our 40s.

We own a lovely, 2,700 sq ft home in a very nice neighborhood, with a swimming pool, on a 1/4 acre lot.

Own. Not mortgaged, but owned.

Why? How? Because over the years we have made wise choices, and lived frugally, and saved. And, thanks to the blessings and benevolence of the Lord, we achieved that mythical "American Dream."

If people find it too expensive to be squooshed into a City like San Francisco, they should move. I did.


10 posted on 02/06/2007 10:40:35 PM PST by PERKY2004 (Cats are nature's way of saying your furniture is too nice.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wow, and to think the libs made their own hellish utopia, are living in it and don't recognize it.


11 posted on 02/06/2007 10:41:14 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: Liberty Wins
If they want to live in a home the size of a train compartment, that's their privilege. But they have no business forcing me to live the way THEY want.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 02/06/2007 10:43:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I'll just add to the 'Don't whine about not being able to afford to live in an expensive place if you can't afford to' crowd. They ain't making any more land in San Francisco, and even if they allowed rampant building the streets and other infrasturcure are already at capacity. To say nothing of earthquakes. Sheesh, it's one of the most expensive areas in the world because, just like the others, it's a limited commodity.
13 posted on 02/06/2007 10:47:42 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: MinorityRepublican

http://www.irrationalknowledge.com/12-22-2005/why-you-cant-afford-a-house-in-a-blue-state/

Why You Can’t Afford a House in a Blue State
Filed by: Justin on Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 3:05 pm

I have the misfortune of living in Massachusetts, one the bluest states in the nation. Housing prices have been increasing even though Massachusetts is the only state in the nation with a declining population. Once you understand this you will understand why people are “voting with the feet” and moving to red states.

The short explanation for the skyrocketing housing prices is the Law of Unintended Consequences. As this article in the Economist explains, housing prices are rising fastest in the northeast and in the west coast (read: blue states) due to government limitations on the development of new housing. There are several reasons for this.

Housing Bubble

Low interest rates may be driving up housing prices. It may also be the case that the 1999 tax law that gives a $500,000 deduction on capital gains taxes for your primary residence is also driving up housing prices. But there are other factors at work.. This article is about those other factors.

Environmentalism or Affordable Housing?

Stanford economist Thomas Sowell has written a great article describing the impact of open spaces zoning laws (laws that forbid all development, including housing) on housing prices. Last march housing prices rose by $2000 a day in San Mateo, even though San Mateo has seen its overall population drop as young people are gentrified by the high cost of living.

Open spaces laws are interesting because they throw two liberal goals into conflict: environmentalism and affordable housing for the poor and working class.

Public Schools

There are two reasons why public schools have driven up the cost of housing. The first reason is money. Towns know that new houses cost money because you have to build new schools. Businesses bring in money from taxes and do not require many services. Towns preferentially zone for commercial rather than residential use in order to maximize tax revenues and minimize expenses. The Washington Post has a good article on the subject here.

The second reason is more uncomfortable: race (as we have persistently argued, the real reason behind race issues is actually culture). The quality of a school is not determined by funding; the quality of a school is determined by the degree of commitment the parents have to education. That is why Washington DC public schools are among the worst in the nation despite being some of the highest funded. Neighborhoods act a filtering process. Families get sorted out based on socioeconomic standing. Everyone that has ever shopped for a house knows this: “This is a nice neighborhood and the schools are great - can we afford it?”

The unintended consequence of “free” public schools is that housing prices are increasing. Housing is the gatekeeper to education. Economists talk about inelastic demand - demand for things for which there are few substitutes. Private schools are expensive when you are already paying taxes for public school. We could eliminate this reason for expensive housing by decoupling public schools from housing. But by definition that would require vouchers, which the left will not accept.

The Two Income Trap

Given that there isn’t enough housing in neighborhoods with good schools to go around, imagine the following two scenarios.

The one income world: Imagine if the only people in the housing market were in one income families. Then couples would bid for housing based on the husband’s salary. There isn’t enough housing to go around, so some families will lose this game of musical chairs for good housing.
The two income world: If one of these “losing” families became a two income family then they could easily win the bidding war. But since there still isn’t enough housing to go around, they would just make another single income family the new “loser”. As more and more women join the workforce, the price of housing rises.
The houses in the two income world are identical to the houses in the one income world, but they cost a lot more money. This is the two income trap. Women have joined the workforce in numbers and Americans are working harder than ever, but real purchasing power has not increased.

A Blue State Problem

As the Economist article mentioned above stated, expensive housing is largely (although not exclusively) a blue state problem. At this point it should be clear why. Conservatives are less likely to have two income families, have a stronger respect for property rights, and are less likely to support overboard environmental policies that forbid development while working families struggle to afford housing.

Property rights do not protect the rich, although they do make it tougher for the rich to work the system to their advantage. Think about all those wealthy homeowners in San Mateo – I’m sure they are liberal enough to be staunch environmentalists, but it doesn’t hurt that these laws are driving up the value of their homes. The liberal response to the corruption of government power is bigger government (and hence, more corruption and rent seeking). The conservative response is smaller government. And hence cheaper housing in red states, and people voting with their feet and leaving the blue states.

This article in the Wall Street Journal makes similar points and is well worth reading.


14 posted on 02/06/2007 10:48:38 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: flashbunny; All

No one forcing people to live in.....

That is what some of us say about people who live where there are floods,huricanes, tornados, etc.
and the tax payers of Calif. and others pick up the tab for the people who lose their homes to lose them again in another year over and over


15 posted on 02/06/2007 10:49:42 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: RedStateRocker
San Francisco and Hawaii are off limits to all but the wealthy because land availability is limited and the real estate market is pretty much a sellers' market. You won't even get a view unless you have several million dollars. If I may say so myself, I bought a place with that kind of view in Colorado for a fraction of that price before every one else got a chance to discover it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 02/06/2007 10:56:59 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And I should care about ratz living in a city why?


17 posted on 02/06/2007 11:00:04 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What a miserable little whiner. No one's forcing him to live in San Francisco, probably the most expensive city to live in outside of New York. I grew up in a solidly middle-class, two-income family in the 1950s and 60s - my mother was a teacher, and my father an engineer - and the seven of us lived in a three-bedroom house with one bathroom. This guy would probably consider that to be poverty-level squalor. Idiot.


18 posted on 02/06/2007 11:00:05 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wonder how many liberals would fit inside John Edwards new 28,000 square foot house?


19 posted on 02/06/2007 11:02:53 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Sarcasm is something a liberal cannot understand. Along with everything else.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
That's a lot of square footage. Probably in the $10 million range with property taxes 100K a year. Nice find if you can afford the mortgage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 02/06/2007 11:04:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Edwards also clear cut alot of acreage behind the house. Probably going to open up a hospital on that land so he'll be closer to his income stream. Or a mobile home park so he'll be closer to his voting base in the "other" America.....


21 posted on 02/06/2007 11:11:51 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Sarcasm is something a liberal cannot understand. Along with everything else.)
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To: AlaskaErik
Erik, sounds good to me..

To make it so, I believe one key is to create multi-keyholes in decentralization of Fed Gov.
Current and improving tech doesn't require more than a local office in DC.

Somewhat a reverse of Congress having "local offices".

Spread the "tax wealth"..also spreads the Follow-On Wealth of private business in a logical manner.

For example, put Department of Ag in the Nations Breadbasket. That's where their work should be.

DOD should also be in a similar region. But it's rather a strategic consideration. Don't have your HQ on the perimeter.

My Point is, Pols need to work smarter and the electorate become more discriminatory...and demanding.
There's a heckuva hole in Appalachia and the Mid-West.
22 posted on 02/06/2007 11:52:14 PM PST by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Votes have consequences.

When you continually vote in endless building regulation and micromanage every aspect of construction through to the color of paint it costs, it costs dearly.

Go try to build something in San Francisco (or any other major city) and see what it takes. It is nearly impossible unless you are politically connected. Most city councils are no growth based and were elected by the voters. Pretty obvious why there's a shortage of affordable housing...

23 posted on 02/06/2007 11:58:40 PM PST by DB
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To: MinorityRepublican
Boo hoo.

Nobody made this guy live in San Francisco. Instead of whining about prices there, maybe he should look elsewhere.

24 posted on 02/06/2007 11:59:05 PM PST by SIDENET (No votes for RINOs.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Living in a megacity is for idiots.
25 posted on 02/06/2007 11:59:18 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: PERKY2004

Excellent!


26 posted on 02/06/2007 11:59:54 PM PST by DB
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To: MinorityRepublican
Living space, unless one belongs to that tiny percentage called the upper class, is shrinking as the human population continues to grow. While the rural poor leave open sky and rolling plains to flock to the edge of the metropolis--they crowd into ramshackle slums in the third world, or one-room units in the first--the middle class is clinging to its precious status by contending with far smaller living spaces than those of previous generations.

A Few Very Helpful Examples are Pictured Below:

This one bedroom house was listed for sale for $ 515,000 in Los Angeles. It did not sell but may reappear on the market later this year:


This three bedroom, one bath house was for sale in Los Angeles for only $ 445,000. It did not sell. The rumor is that it has been rented to Mexicans.

Want to learn more? Clickity, click click Or -- View helpful charts and graphs Here

27 posted on 02/07/2007 12:19:39 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: peggybac

You're still in Mass? Let the Liberals have it and move to the South. Not only that people are friendlier, but it's cheaper obviously from the evidence you pointed out.


28 posted on 02/07/2007 12:31:06 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: goldstategop

Even if the land is limited without any government interference, the skyscrapers could be built at a lower cost in which the developers would pass it on to the customers.


29 posted on 02/07/2007 12:32:57 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Its called ridiculous taxes. That is the problem. Too many people in this country need to speak up and ask where their hard earned money is going. And IMO many of these taxes are unconstitutional.


30 posted on 02/07/2007 12:43:04 AM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: MinorityRepublican

bookmark


31 posted on 02/07/2007 1:18:59 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: flashbunny
Same here. I live in the same house I've lived in for well over 30 years and I don't see any reason to downsize, upsize, or any other damn "size". This must be something peculiar to young people--or those dumb enough to feel like they HAVE to live in a big city, but I don't think it necessarily means the American Dream has been "downsized" It's alway been a choice, and it still is.
32 posted on 02/07/2007 1:27:01 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: MinorityRepublican

"I remember when a middle-class family could own a Victorian home
in San Francisco. "

LOL!
That was in the era of the old movie "I Remember Mama"!
(Early 1900s)

Before the housing market got into permanent bubble mode via the
gay influx and the Internet bubble!


33 posted on 02/07/2007 1:45:27 AM PST by VOA
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To: RedStateRocker
That's why you build upwards.

A 100-story condo building will house far more people that a 1-story condo building...

...and they'll all get a decent square footage.

(or, if high-rises offend your aesthetic sense, build underground)
34 posted on 02/07/2007 2:34:44 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans only win if they are conservative.)
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To: ex-Texan

Geez. That shack would go for around $30,000 where I live, if that much. I think my garage is bigger than that, and my entire home cost less than half of what that one was selling for and I even have 5 acres of land lol.

35 posted on 02/07/2007 2:56:41 AM PST by KoRn
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To: PERKY2004

"We own a lovely, 2,700 sq ft home in a very nice neighborhood, with a swimming pool, on a 1/4 acre lot."

Good for you. You're living the American dream. Pollls show that 80% of Americans want that American dream - a home, on an acre, with a white picket fence and a garden in back, or some variation such as your home.

You're also in the vanguard of reclaiming our property rights. Many states passed Kelo reform this past election. The more property owners we have, the more property rights people demand. In many areas the smarxist growth purveyors are on the run. We are seeing federal district and state courts re-establishing our property rights.

In Michigan, the state supreme court shot down the state's Kelo land grabs. The court made it known to municipalities that it will not tolerate any land grabs from bureaucrats or thieving politicians.

In Utah, a federal district court ruled that counties are sovereign and the federal government may take no action in those counties without the county government's approval.

We're on a roll thanks to the increasing number of private property owners and have the legal tools to crush the Marxist land grabbers and crooked government manipulators.


36 posted on 02/07/2007 5:34:12 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like Andrew Lam has a bad case of Class Envy. The American Dream has not downsized, it has been redefined by the liberal DBM.

Large cities are "hell holes" and tend to draw all the libs so someone else can foot the bill. More government means less freedom. If he doesn't like the small home he can afford in SF, he can move somewhere else.


37 posted on 02/07/2007 5:52:55 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Global warming = A lie told often enough, is eventually accepted as the truth.)
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To: KoRn
Far Flung Exurbs Hit Hard By Housing Downturn

Excerpts:

While the housing downturn has depressed once-thriving real estate markets around the nation, far-flung suburbs of major cities have suffered the most abrupt market correction. * * *

"It's been hard for sellers to comprehend, and I'm usually the bearer of bad news," said Mike Wagner, a real estate broker who works in Loudon.

"The news is: Your home is worth $100,000 less than it was a year and a half ago."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070206/bs_nm/usa_economy_housing_dc;_ylt=As_GMBotUtOlh13kNoP0c6qyBhIF

Graphic proof of this trend is posted here:

Clickity Click Click

38 posted on 02/07/2007 5:54:30 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: PERKY2004
We own a lovely, 2,700 sq ft home in a very nice neighborhood, with a swimming pool, on a 1/4 acre lot.

Congrats on living the American Dream. The left would say you have MORE than your share of wealth and want to make you live in a shack like they do in the large cities.

We live in a small suburb of Austin, and have a couple more years on our loan. I'd like to pay it off, but the interest rate we got on the 15 yr loan was too good to pass up.

There is no way I could live in a large city again. Been there - done that. The commute is about one hour, but I'll take that over the liberal city government. The wife doesn't work at a paid job, so she stay busy doing housework.

39 posted on 02/07/2007 6:03:45 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Global warming = A lie told often enough, is eventually accepted as the truth.)
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To: PERKY2004
It's all about freedom to choose. To some people proximity to the culture of a big city, sports teams, museums, eating at 350 different restaurants a year and access to a lot of different cultures are a thing worth living in a 1000 square foot box. Other people need land, space privacy and are willing to tolerate not having many amenities and/or 'terrible' weather (my mom moved to Montana from the wine country, doesn't mind it a bit, misses the opera and the symphony, though). The more cynical amongst us might even say it's a Good Thing that the vast majority of flaming liberals are concentrated in the most likely terror targets.
40 posted on 02/07/2007 6:48:03 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: KoRn; ex-Texan

Damn. We got a six-bedroom Victorian on a half-acre for literally 1/4th of what they were marketing that little house for!


41 posted on 02/07/2007 6:58:00 AM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: onedoug

ping


42 posted on 02/07/2007 9:32:38 AM PST by windcliff
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To: MinorityRepublican

If we want to restore America we need only repeal the Treaty and open the land office for recording claims to homesteads, homesites, and mineral resources.


43 posted on 02/07/2007 9:34:38 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Today a condo is what most in the middle class can hope for in places like San Francisco or New York. I suspect that in another generation or two, middle-class homes in American cities will look like those of Tokyo today--which is to say, the size of a train compartment."

Yada yada yada

Poor, poor person. Too bad he doesn't recognize a world outside "places like San Francisco or New York." I hope he stays where he is.

44 posted on 02/07/2007 9:40:52 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: MinorityRepublican
I have downsized as well.

Moved from 145 acres to 100 acres then to 25 acres.


BUMP

45 posted on 02/07/2007 9:42:57 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Heavens no, I'm not in Mass. I'm in the KC metro area (on the Kansas side) waiting to begin negotiations for a home I have a contract on. I recently returned from Los Angeles where there was no way in hell I could even afford a one bedroom condo. I'm hoping to get into this 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom home for around $165,000, if not lower.


46 posted on 02/07/2007 10:20:11 AM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: ex-Texan

In what part of LA are those homes for sale? I'm surprised the 3 bedroom wasn't snatched up by a buyer.


47 posted on 02/07/2007 10:22:08 AM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: MinorityRepublican; qam1
I remember when a middle-class family could own a Victorian home in San Francisco. Now such a home would be divided into three or four units, each remodeled and sold to an upper middle-class couple.

That's what it is to be Gen-X

This should be a Gen-X ping.

48 posted on 02/07/2007 10:27:52 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: flashbunny
There are plenty of places where the land is cheap, the air is clean, and there's plenty of space to roam.

And there are no jobs....

49 posted on 02/07/2007 10:28:24 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
you don't have to live that way......you could move out to tiny towns or villages or move to a farm.....

trouble is its out in fly over land and you won't get your fancy, smancy big paychecks nor will you be able to go to the sushi bar.....

these whiners make me sick...

50 posted on 02/07/2007 10:28:56 AM PST by cherry
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