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Is Everything We Know About Joe Wilson’s Trip to Niger Wrong?
National Review ^ | Byron York

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:30:00 AM PST by slowhand520

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1 posted on 02/07/2007 5:30:03 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

I'm sure that this information will be featured on page one of the NYT, above the fold!

< /sarc >


2 posted on 02/07/2007 5:34:41 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: slowhand520

And exactly how did Wilson 'investigate' the report? Sipping tea with the leaders of the country and asking them "pretty please - tell me if you are selling uranium to Iraq- c'mon, I won't tell- with sugar on it?"


3 posted on 02/07/2007 5:40:19 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: JimRed
I don't see much significance in this.
4 posted on 02/07/2007 5:42:08 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: slowhand520
These "people" are outrageous.

And, of course, they'll get away with it...again.

I go from seething rage to abject depression these days.

5 posted on 02/07/2007 5:42:39 AM PST by IrishRainy ("There is not a single <u>solitary</u> nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. ")
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To: Shermy; cyncooper

Fyi..


6 posted on 02/07/2007 5:43:25 AM PST by Dog
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To: slowhand520
Not quite such a slowhand... I just posted this same story just 8 minutes after you!!

The thing that bothers me most is how in the dark the 'Senate Investigators' seemed to be...
7 posted on 02/07/2007 5:43:46 AM PST by livesbygrace (Edmund Burke "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing")
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid

Wilson claimed from the beginning that Cheney sent him to Niger--that never made sense. This proves that his wife was responsible.


8 posted on 02/07/2007 5:44:49 AM PST by Neverforget01
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin

fyi


9 posted on 02/07/2007 5:47:44 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Fred Thompson in '08!)
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To: slowhand520

Byron York engages in too much ass-covering in this article for me to take it seriously. Come back when you've got some confidence in your assertions, Mr. York.


10 posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:22 AM PST by billybudd
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To: Neverforget01
Wilson parsed phraseology, and made it sound like Cheney sent him, when actually Wilson said the request came from the VP's office - not the VP.

The significance here is (if true), even THAT statement by Wilson was wrong.
11 posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:37 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: slowhand520

Is that the reason why Matthews let an F bomb slip on Imus this AM?


12 posted on 02/07/2007 5:51:38 AM PST by AU72
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Shermy
If I remember correctly Val's boss at the time ...was a gentlman named Alan Foley.

Shermy is that correct?

13 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:31 AM PST by Dog
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To: Neverforget01
Wilson claimed from the beginning that Cheney sent him to Niger--that never made sense. This proves that his wife was responsible.

That was already known.

14 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:14 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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"I don't see much significance in this."

1. It eliminates the idea that Cheney was desperately doing anything he could to dredge up a reason to go to war. The DIA and the CIA were ahead of him on this.

2. The CIA selected who would go BEFORE Cheney even asked. It's called "Shaping Policy".

3. It gives the VP a HUGE reason to wonder and start asking about Joe Wilson's story - It was a lie and the VP knew it was a lie.

4. This is now DOCUMENTED. Not rumor but DOCUMENTED.

5. It is further proof of the cabal within the CIA that was working to take down the President. They planned this from the start.


15 posted on 02/07/2007 5:57:34 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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The CIA gave the SSCI enough to prove that Wilson was lying in several particulars, so why did they hold back on these documents showing that the Wilson trip pre-dated the VP's request for more info?

I'll indulge in some rank speculation.

To protect themselves - the bureaucratic prime directive.

But from what?

From disclosure that the CIA was running an active disinformation op and "silent coup" against the WH and Cheney in particular. Wilson was sent out with the mission of first inducing reliance upon and then discrediting the African uranium reports. Like the forgeries themselves, he was intended to suck people into relying on his actual substantiation of Iraqi uranium scouting in Afrida, and to then repudiate it and pull the rug out from under them and discredit them. The CIA sent him. The CIA let him lie in the NYT. The CIA very reluctantly on a Friday evening issued a statement contradicting Wilson. The CIA first supported the 16 words, but then withdrew the support when it was completely unnecessary to do so, severely discrediting the President. The CIA resisted decassifying NIE portions that discredited Wilson, but was obviated by the President's declassification decision - a decision that was kept from the CIA at first. It was Tenet who first said Iraqi WMD was a slam dunk but later allowed Wilson to spread his lies, and later demanded a DOJ criminal prosecution over the WH's rebuttal of Wilson's lies. The target of that referral was Cheney.

The President might want to ask Tenet to give back that Medal of Freedom.


16 posted on 02/07/2007 5:58:24 AM PST by Buckhead
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To: Dog

IIRC, yes that was claimed, but I'm not certain.


17 posted on 02/07/2007 5:58:34 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Fred Thompson in '08!)
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To: stylin19a
Wilson parsed phraseology, and made it sound like Cheney sent him, when actually Wilson said the request came from the VP's office - not the VP.

And even that doesn't make sense. Why on earth would a former ambassador be sent to investigate illegal sales? Of course this must have been Novak's train of thought as well-"How did Wilson get picked?"

It seems pretty clear the CIA listend to Valerie.

18 posted on 02/07/2007 6:00:13 AM PST by Neverforget01
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Howlin; Miss Marple; Shermy; cyncooper
Alan Foley was mentioned as Val's boss in the famous Vanity Fair article....the one with them on the cover in the convertible.

Here is the twist....Alan Foley is on record DENYING he was her boss.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:m_j8g80GbwkJ:neveryetmelted.com/%3Fcat%3D624+Alan+Foley+and+Valerie+Plame&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

19 posted on 02/07/2007 6:01:08 AM PST by Dog
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To: stylin19a
Wilson parsed phraseology, and made it sound like Cheney sent him, when actually Wilson said the request came from the VP's office - not the VP.

The significance here is (if true), even THAT statement by Wilson was wrong.

I don't see much significance here either. So what if he was wrong, he wasn't asked till after both actions took place, the VP did ask that SOMEONE be sent, even though the CIA had already been asking. So what? Don't get me wrong, I know Wilson was a lying SOB, but this doesn't seem significant to me.

20 posted on 02/07/2007 6:01:11 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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