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To: liberallarry

Scientists are subject to the same failings as other human beings but less so I think than most other groups by virtue of their training and calling.

You have spent much time around the political infighting for research dollars have you?

As I said in my first post none of this will make any difference to those who are called upon to make sacrifices.

One things for sure, sacrifice for sacrifice sake is not the way to go. The greater risks to society lay in declining global temperatures not warming trends. Unfortunately geological trend is for deep ice age 90% of the time.

It is totally foolish to fight the long term natural trend on this one. Lower highs and Lower lows of the geologic trend happens to be down not up.

 


Figure 1-2 Climate of the last 2400 years (GISP2)

 
Figure 1-3 Climate of the last 12,000 years (GISP2)

 

With the biggy waiting for the unwary:

 


Figure 1-5 Climate for the last 420 kyr, from Vostok ice

68 posted on 02/07/2007 8:17:54 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: ancient_geezer
You have spent much time around the political infighting for research dollars have you?

You're argument is ridiculous. At the present time no reputable scientist has to compromise his views to get funding. There's plenty of funding pro and con global warming.

One things for sure, sacrifice for sacrifice sake is not the way to go. The greater risks to society lay in declining global temperatures not warming trends. Unfortunately geological trend is for deep ice age 90% of the time.

Why do you keep posting ridiculous, pseudo-scientific evidence? After all this time, do you really believe that any reputable scientist is unaware of it, hasn't taken it into account in forming his views? The only people who'd even consider it are total ignoramouses. If IPCC scientists are wrong it won't be you who demonstrates it with stuff you found on the Internet.

Nobody's proposing sacrifice for no good reason. They're trying to avert a major catastrophe. But, as the author of the article at the head of this thread notes, the scale of sacrifice required is so great that there's no chance it will even be considered, let along adopted, under present conditions.

70 posted on 02/07/2007 8:36:08 PM PST by liberallarry
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