Posted on 02/08/2007 7:35:28 PM PST by Kitten Festival
Ethanol is a joke unless we start making it out of food.
Its pitiful. Our Gov is more frightened by the enviorowhacko fallout that they are about Chavez and Amadinajhad
Whatta yew mean, "beat me up?" I din't even ping you on THIS thread, yet!!! Gimme a break!!! (grin) (and I don't want the kind ol Steroid Schwartzenegger got, neither)
Shoot! We got enough oil in Canada and the Gulf of Mexico down deep to supply all of STARFLEET!!! (let alone off our FL & CA shores and the north slope of AK)
How interesting that both the U.S. and Brazil, two states that have been ethanol rivals for years, might benefit by an alliance at this point not only to resolve energy issues but to cut short the negative impact of a oil-drenched dictator. Ironically, by burning corn and sugar in our cars, the U.S. and Brazil can force Chavez to drink his oil.
Recipients of Corn Subsidies from farms in United States totaled $51,261,000,000 in from 1995-2005.
Well the Gov hasnt bought Global Warming yet, although the media and masses have
All that's said about ethanol is right. But if it helps put Hugo out of business, I am in favor of it. Every last bit helps.
The main way Brazil reached energy independance is the $10,000/an tax on every car makes cars too expensive for most.
If there's one single thing that Mexicans have come to depend on at all economic levels, it's the price of corn tortillas!!!
I don't want 'em pist at me, just to help out Archer Daniels Midland and a buncha dumb politicians tryin ta help a buncha smartassed farmers with Federally subsidized corn whiskey for botique gasoline that can't be piped to CA from IA!!!
Then, by Golly, I'll bet the border gets tightened up in a hurry!!! Ha ha Ha!!!
They've bought into more of it than you realize.
All it will succeed in doing is burning more of our dollars.
Did you repeat that idea here in hopes that it would go over really big???
And currently there is like a $.54 tarrif on imported ethanol that precluded us from buying the cheaper brazilian ethanol.
Theres a lot of shennanigans going on, but as fouled up as it is I believe Nicholas Burns is going after Chavez's golden egg here. Burns also just completed a Nuke power plant deal eith India that will cut of a major market to Iran
I once thought long ago, What about pond scum? as in pumping CO2 into algae reactors.
I just looked it up, you Pump CO2 into giant glass solar algae photobioreactors....then you got two options...1) make biodiesel from the algae, or 2) Make it anaerobic and collect the Hydrogen gas. In the first case, the entire cycle would be carbon neutral process to the atmosphere. In the second case, it be carbon reducing. (Not that I'm taking a side on global warming or anything)
I'm not saying that it will be feasable, but I suspect algae reactors would be more energy rich and more efficient to maintain than ethanol production from corn or grass fields.
It might also be possible to do this on the ocean surface somehow, so as not to take up much land area.
2 words...."flour tortillas" ;0)
Well said.
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