Posted on 2/9/2007, 5:04:39 PM by joan
Friday 09 February 2007 10:40
Bosnian Serb TV presented late Thursday new video material showing Bosnian Muslim troops torturing Muslim soldiers in western Bosnia during the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bosnian media reported Friday.
The video showed events after troops led by the former general of the Fifth Corps of the Bosnian Muslim Army, Atif Dudakovic, took control over Western Bosnia, defeating troops of Bosnian Muslim rebel Fikret Abdic in July 1994.
The video also showed an improvised mortuary and the bodies of three members of Abdic's army with obvious signs of torture.
Two days before they were killed, Dudakovic reportedly said: "These are two main actors in the movie, this one is an assistant, and I am director. "
The video also showed Dudakovic's troops celebrating the victory on the streets of the western Bosnian town of Bihac.
As part of the celebration, they seized two of Abdic's soldiers and drove them around naked on the front of a car, with military belts around their necks.
According to the report, the two young soldiers, identified as Muslims Adis Sabic and Arif Vukovic, survived, thanks to an UN official.
The video also showed the aftermath of the operation of the Fifth Corps, called Sloboda 94 (Freedom 94), with bodies lying on the roads to Bihac.
Bosnia-Herzegovina's State Prosecutor Marinko Jurcevic launched an investigation against former general Dudakovic last year, after Bosnian Serb authorities showed another video accusing the general of war crimes against Serb refugees from Croatia.
The alleged crimes were committed soon after the Croatian troop operation against Serb rebels in southern Croatia in August 1995.
Thousands of Croatian Serbs then entered Bosnia, which was still at war, trying to reach Bosnian Serb territories or to move on in to Serbia.
Dudakovic's troops allegedly stopped a number of Serb civilians and military and committed war crimes against them.
According to prosecutor Jurcevic, the investigation against Dudakovic should be completed by September this year.
General Dudakovic rejected all accusations, saying that he had been framed by the Serbian and Bosnian Serb media. dpa zl fs
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But, but but but, I thought it was genocide of Albanians (muslims) that made Clinton go to the rescue.
Oh, there was a reason for the Clintonistas to intervene in Bosnia and Kosovo. It was to support the muslims.
You're right on that score, at least as far as clinton was concerned! Clinton was able to ignore Somalia (Blackhawk down) and WTC '93 and Osama.
The Balkan wars were quelled to keep the fighting from spreading to the rest of Southeast Europe.
Yep, sure kept the fighting from spreading to Kosovo, Preshevo, Macedonia; and the recent activity in Montenegro never happened!
To say the Bosnia and Kosovo wars were aimed at checking Islam ignores the nature of Balkan, particularly Serbian or Croatian, nationalism. There were no links then with Wahabbisim or al-Queda...
Saudi-backed Wahhabism first made itself visible in Bosnia during the 1992-95 war, when up to 6,000 "Arab Afghan" volunteers arrived in the country and enlisted in combat.Wahhabism and al-Qaeda in Bosnia-Herzegovina
It is not ridiculous. It is true. Why all the outrageous lies by the international community that genocide was taking place against Albanians (muslims) when there has been no proof of that? It was to get the U.S. to use it's fire power to kill the Serbs.
Not true, GAB. A very senior Croat advisor to Tudjman - Hrvoje Sarinic - who acted as Tudjmans confidential envoy to Milosvic - talked of Milosevic being worried about ISLAMISTS in the early 90's. A full decade before 9 11.
He said that Milosevic was so worried about the rise of the Islamists in the Balkans, he would go on about it all the time. So much so, the Croat called it Milosevic's LEITMOTIF - For any Wagnerians out there, a "LEITMOTIF" is a recurring theme or melody that is present throughout a piece.
ADMIT IT GAB, THE SERBS WERE A GOOD DECADE AHEAD OF 9 11 IN THEIR WARNINGS OF ISLAMISTS. ADMIT IT
"So as we left shortly after the meeting, in the plane he said to me, "Here is what Slobo," as he called him, "gave me." And I looked at this piece of paper. It was written in black ballpoint pen, and roughly it said the following, that the Muslims were a major evil. Actually, that one should be cautious about this so-called green, zelena transverzala, going from Turkey, Bulgaria, Western Macedonia, Kosovo and Sandzak, and that this was a major threat for Bosnia and also for peace in the area, that the Muslims had already hung a green flag on Mount Romanija, a mountain close to Sarajevo, and that they wanted an unitary Bosnia and Herzegovina in which they would rule, while the Croats and the Serbs would be minorities."
AND THE FOLLOWING
"I would say that that was the leitmotif of the accused ( Milosevic) generally. And he said to me on one occasion that there were about 2.500 Mujahedin who had come in from other Islamic countries to help their brethren in Bosnia-Herzegovina. And he also told me that the Muslims are a great evil because of their demographic explosion and that it would all cost us a great deal unless we're cautious. So that this fundamentalism, and if we refer to the green tranverzala, the line I mentioned a moment ago, then this can be seen in very vivid form."
THE SERB'S MISTAKE WAS BEING A GOOD DECADE OF 9 11
ADMIT IT GAB
Even Tudgman's key advisors noticed how Milosevic went on and on about militant Islam
Just because it isn't on MSM doesn't mean it never existed. Try to read more and watch CNN a little less.
"There were no links then with Wahabbisim or al-Queda, and the claim of Serbian supporters reminds me of the International Brigade members who said they were "premature anti-Fascists"
But, as the Croat delegation noted, you're way off on this claim too. The Serbs were going on about militant Islam a good 10 years before 9 11. Just because you didn't see it on Larry King doesn't really count for all that much.
In summary, Milosevic was calling Islamists "evil," whilst the West was busy cooing and fawning over "Rambo 3"
ADMIT IT , THE SERBS WERE RIGHT ON THE MONEY AND MANY IN THE WEST HATE THEM FOR IT , ADMIT IT
Knock off the caps, please. And I don't admit it. The issue really was Balkan nationalism, and religion was at best a secondary issue.
There were a 1,000 and 1 influences or issues in the Bosnian civil war, as in any conflict. What I said was that Milosevic and the Bosnian Serbs were trying to warn the world of the Islamists. But no one listened. The senior Croat adviser said that Milosevic would go on and on about the dangers of Izetbegovic, the Mujahideen, the Iranian military Intelligence, etc. Milosevic called them "evil". In Hollywood they were being portrayed as "freedom fighters".
The fact that no one was listening to the Serbs pleas, isn't the Serbs fault.
THE SERBS FAULT WAS BEING WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THE RISE OF THE ISLAMISTS
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Compare that with how Milosevic go on with the truly SECULAR Muslims of Fikret Abdic. The very same Hrvoje Sarinic would talk of how Milosevic got on very well with Abdic, was aiding his forces, etc. and tried to get the Croats to help the SECULAR Muslims of Bihac too. "I have just given him an order given an order for him to be supplied with 12.000 blankets. So help him too. You can help him too." were Milosevic's words to Tudjman's confidential envoy.
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