Posted on 02/10/2007 9:31:32 PM PST by Rodney King
Let's split the difference and call le Pen a Neo-Nazi.
He is in touch with and collaborates with every Neo-Fascist and Neo-Nazi movement in Europe
"A member of the far right in France?
...so he's a just a big government socialist as opposed to a Leninist Communist? "
No, he is a National Socialist, also known as NAZI.
Back?
Hard to regain something you've never had.
National Socialist is more accurate. The Fascist party was Italian.
I think it is important to use accurate terminology...
National Socialist, Soviet Socialist, Fascist... all the same things really...
Stalin was a master propagandist, it was from Stalin where people in the West get the false idea the NAZIs were Fascists.
I have said all along, a lot of French are fed up with all this EU multi cultural BS. There is going to be a backlash and it ain’t going to be pretty.
There were fascist parties in many countries, including France, Britain, Norway, etc.
I never did admore him.
Correction, socialist parties.
"Fascismo" is an Italian word that does not translate into other languages...
Uh huh. Yeah. Ok. The man is campaigning on total repeal of the income tax and you say he is anti-capitalist and a neo-nazi. And what do you mean by neo nazi? Do you mean he wishes to re-create an authoritarian government led by a single leader, wishing to unite all of Europe under control of the Germans? Or is neo-nazi just a term you throw around for people you don't like?
I have found your many post very enligthening. Not only do you not repeat yourself in every post, but you provide sound, reasoned analysis as opposed to the hyperbole so often thrown around FR.
Please don't "correct" me when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. In the 1930s, Sir Oswald Mosely was head of the British Union of Fascists. In France, the major fascist (again, they called themselves that) parties were La Cagoule, Action Francaise and Faisceau (literally the French translation of the "untranslatable" "fascismo").
Why you would presume to lecture me on this boggles the mind.
Additionally, both France and Britain were ruled in the 1930s by socialist parties. In your brilliant estimation of history, would you describe the fascist Action Francaise as supporting or opposing the socialist government of Leon Blum? Would you describe Sir Oswald Mosely of the Union of British Fascists being for against the socialist government of Ramsay Macdonald? Just wondering...
The WSJ yesterday had an interesting article on Ms. Royal, the Socialist candidate. Evidently she has had a long time companion by the name of Holland (spelling may not be correct). They have never married and they have 4 children. I thought to myself while reading the article that if this was the USA she would have no chance. It mentioned she also has been able to get the morning after pill into French high schools. France is truly degenerate.
Neo-Nazi is the correct term for those who follow the tenents of the Adolf Hitler and the old Nazi Party, and who associate and affiliate with the Neo-Nazi network in Europe.
Le Pen is a National Socialist, which still translate to socialism, state ownsership.
Le Pen hates Jews, hates Israel, and hates America.
"But Le Pen is actually a fascist. I don't bandy that word about -- unlike so many others falsely given that label, he comes directly out of the fascist collaborationist movement in France"
Aside from his odious past, he is, in the present, very much connected with the neo-fascist, neo-Nazi movement in France and the rest of Europe.
He was eleven when the war started and would have been seventeen when it ended. He did claim to have participated in some way in the resistance. Just what that would have involved is hard to say. You're right that those who fought don't remember his participation.
His ex-wife, who didn't know him during the war years, said "the only thing he ever did during the occupation was hide a gun under his bed," which is different from what you've said, but they were involved in an acrimonous divorce, and she made other charges that may or may not be true.
It is true that LePen had been a paratrooper in Vietnam and Algeria, so whatever else you can say about him, he wasn't physically a coward. I suppose he does exaggerate -- even lie -- and there are reasons enough for voting against him, but apparently not all of the things said against him are true either.
And le Pen does? He believes in Socialism? Than why is he proposing repeal of the income tax? Does he believe in the Fuhrer principle, or anything close to it?
i and who associate and affiliate with the Neo-Nazi network in Europe.
Perhaps... or perhaps all of the party's that the "democrats" in the EU want to pretend don't exist naturally rally around each other.
Le Pen is a National Socialist, which still translate to socialism, state ownsership.
Except, that he does not. Please provide evidence of this claim.
Le Pen hates Jews, hates Israel, and hates America.
Perhaps... but I'll take that over the coming muslim rule in France.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to actually know something about France, its history, and election process, before posting ignorant nonsense and making a fool of yourself?
When challenged to back up your facts, you resort to personal attack. telling.
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