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No Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons
Human Rights Watch ^ | 2007.02.12 | Joanne Mariner

Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan

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To: AppyPappy
I have spoken to several men who have been in prison and they say the rape concept is way overblown. Most cellmates are reluctant to rape their cellie for fear they might kill them in their sleep. Besides cells, men are rarely unsupervised long enough to rape anyone.

Or long enough to beat up a former Border Patrol agent, right?

While there is some truth in what you wrote, there are far too many poorly run prisons where officials do look the other way and/or are understaffed. There is no excuse for bribery and prisoners getting a hold of contraband, but it still happens a lot.

These days our prison system as a whole is probably America's greatest shame. Lots of reasons, from both the left and right, that led up to where we are, but it is inexcusable and we need reforms.

101 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:26 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Joe Dyton in '08; and free the Texas Three.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

LOL, don't you mean "work detail"?


102 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:30 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: MovementConservative

In reality it would not take much to target someone then gang rape them. Three guys with a heavy object could knock someone silly then do their business on him. A blanket could be used to restrain someone just as easily as a few t-shirts and a shank. All that has to happen is someone get caught looking the other way and they are done.

Now, if you are a loner then you are toast. Having a prison bud or two around you at all times will pretty much keep the risks to a minimum.


103 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:59 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: B-Chan
If only we all could be as tough as you, P-40.

It is not a question of being tough. I see no reason to give a damn about a three time DUI offender. True, the state should be protecting him but in this individual's case I can think of better things to spend my time caring about.
104 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:13 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: norge

Could the lesson here be... Driving while drunk causes aids? Therefore... do not drive drunk?? Hark! Hark! Another no brainer.


105 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:15 AM PST by Bubba (Kill'um there or kill'um here.. bloody no brainer!)
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To: isthisnickcool

Let's just say my faith in the fairness of the judicial system has waned somewhat in light of Janet Reno's jailing of the family in the child abuse cases in Florida, the Duke rape case debacle, Rush's brush with a grandstanding DA, Libby's show trial etc etc.


106 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:21 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Constitutional Patriot
Prisoners who rape should be castrated, as should corrections personnel who actively or passively condone rape.

I don't know about castration but the people who are paid to run these prisons have gotten a pass for too long

Wardens and guards upon whose watch this occurs skate with total impunity

Until they are held accountable this will only get worse

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107 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:34 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: B-Chan

Bullies in public schools serve the same purpose as rapists in prisons -- keeping the victims aware of their helplessness.


108 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:53 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: isthisnickcool; B-Chan

You need to do your homework, Mr. Cool.


My family has a friend who was wrongly accused of rape by his very messed-up daughter. This man was entirely innocent, a good church-going fellow who loved his family and had never been in trouble with the law. His teenage daughter went off to college in another state and was basically brainwashed. She concocted lie upon lie about what her father "did" to her when she was living with him.


Her word was enough to get this man arrested and thrown into a big city jail, where he remained for weeks while his lawyer and family tried to get him out. Eventually, his daughter recanted everything and admitted she made it up. In the process? This man's life was destroyed, his career ruined -- and who knows what unspeakable horrors he faced while behind bars.


So I think YOUR ignorance is what's dumb.


109 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:55 AM PST by Gunder
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What? you make no sense whatsoever!


110 posted on 02/12/2007 11:51:00 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: yoe

Yeah, kind of hard to be sexually dominant and aggressive wearing pink...


111 posted on 02/12/2007 11:51:13 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: misterrob

Having a Stick man helps


112 posted on 02/12/2007 11:51:24 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: paddles

Lack of sympathy is one of the signs of a sociopath. You may want to have that checked into.

As for hard labor -- I would tend to agree with you. I'd rather chop cotton on a chain gang than take it up the pooper in an air conditioned cell any day.


113 posted on 02/12/2007 11:51:31 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Well said.


114 posted on 02/12/2007 11:51:51 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: B-Chan
Next time, it might be you.

Why would you think it might be me? I don't drink and drive, I don't consume illegal substances, I don't shoplift, I don't drive without proof of insurance, I have a valid disabled parking tag, and I don't mouth off to law enforcement.

115 posted on 02/12/2007 11:52:01 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: B-Chan

You have a good point, my uncle is a retired CO and I have few other relatives that still work in the prison system. But don't think for one second being black means you will not get raped. He always talked about how the men that were considered by black women to be very good looking were frequent targets. Women prisons are getting very bad also, because I have heard horror stories on how some women inmates have raped other inmates by putting objects in them.

A few years back my uncle was talking about a man who was freed after serving 13 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit (DNA evidence proved his innocence) the sad part about it is he was raped in prison and contracted HIV. Just to see all those people that have been exonerated through DNA evidence is downright scary. It is a shame that so many innocent people have spent time in prison for crimes they didn't commit.


116 posted on 02/12/2007 11:52:58 AM PST by YoungSoutherner
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To: isthisnickcool

You miss the whole point.
1. Yes, if you are the 1 % that is innocent and beaten or raped..so what about statistics?
2. this should not be happening in American prisons...and all of you Maroons who think its "not so bad" are justifying it!


117 posted on 02/12/2007 11:52:59 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Then you must not read your own posts. Ever heard of the Texas Three?

3 out of how many? My issue is that it't not correct to say "that it is very easy to end up in slam in the United States, even if you're 100% innocent". To me the words mean that it's very easy to land in jail in this country for doing nothing. I don't agree with that and neither do the statistics. If the poster meant something different they have had the opportunity to clarify what they meant.

118 posted on 02/12/2007 11:53:28 AM PST by isthisnickcool (I own your children! ---RICK PERRY)
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To: Alouette

"It can't happen to me" is one of the most foolish things a person can say.


119 posted on 02/12/2007 11:53:28 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Prisons are intended to safeguard society from convicted criminals

Lemme fix that for you...

Prisons are intended to safeguard society from PUNISH convicted criminals.
120 posted on 02/12/2007 11:53:47 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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