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Glenn Reynolds’ assassination policy [Left-wing rant alert]
The Carpetbagger Report. ^ | 2/14/2007

Posted on 02/15/2007 10:39:36 AM PST by Hadean

Intentionally or not, Instapundit’s Glenn Reynolds seems to have written one of those posts that has everyone buzzing. Responding to reports that Iran is providing weapons used to attack Americans in Iraq, Reynolds argued:

This has been obvious for a long time anyway, and I don’t understand why the Bush Administration has been so slow to respond. Nor do I think that high-profile diplomacy, or an invasion, is an appropriate response.

We should be responding quietly, killing radical mullahs and iranian atomic scientists, supporting the simmering insurgencies within Iran, putting the mullahs’ expat business interests out of business, etc. Basically, stepping on the Iranians’ toes hard enough to make them reconsider their not-so-covert war against us in Iraq. And we should have been doing this since the summer 2003. But as far as I can tell, we’ve done nothing along these lines….

To be clear, I think it’s perfectly fine to kill people who are working on atomic bombs for countries — like Iran — that have already said that they want to use those bombs against America and its allies, and I think that those who feel otherwise are idiots, and in absolutely no position to strike moral poses. We may wind up doing so via airstrikes, but it would be better to do it in a more selective manner.

I’m loath to put words on his page, but Reynolds apparently believes American assassins should infiltrate Iran to kill unnamed Iranian religious leaders and civilian scientists. I’ll assume Reynolds would prefer to wait for some kind of evidence to point to actual wrongdoing before we start sending hit men into Tehran, but it’s a little unclear.

What’s more, Reynolds’ position has been widely embraced by several other high-profile conservative bloggers. John Hawkins, for example, is convinced that Iran “is a threat to the United States” because it is “targeting our soldiers in Iraq,” which makes critics of Reynolds idea “silly.” Hawkins explained, “Certainly our prohibition on assassinations isn’t going to stop any of our enemies from trying to assassinate Americans if they can get away with it. Only the fear of getting caught and of our retaliation will do that.”

So much for the moral high-ground.

From where I sit, there are two ways of looking at this.

First, as Glenn Greenwald noted, is the legal perspective.

Consistent with American tradition, international treaties, with virtual unanimity, deplore extra-judicial assassinations as the tools of savages and barbarians.

And what is most striking is that these anti-assassination prohibitions apply (a) to wartime and (b) even to foreign leaders of nations who are at war. But here, Reynolds is actually advocating that we murder scientists and religious figures who are “radical,” whatever that might happen to mean in the unchecked mind of George Bush.

If we are to be a country that now sends death squads into nations with whom we are not at war to slaughter civilians — scientists and religious figures — what don’t we do?

Second, and just as importantly, Kevin Drum explains perfectly what Reynolds is, in practice, advocating.

I imagine a lot of people agree with Glenn, but his recommendation really demonstrates the moral knot caused by George Bush’s insistence that we’re fighting a “war on terror.” After all, killing civilian scientists and civilian leaders, even if you do it quietly, is unquestionably terrorism. That’s certainly what we’d consider it if Hezbollah fighters tried to kill cabinet undersecretaries and planted bombs at the homes of Los Alamos engineers. What’s more, if we took this tack against Iran, we’d be doing it for the same reason that terrorists target us: because it’s a more effective, more winnable tactic than conventional war.

If you think Iran is a mortal enemy that needs to be dealt with via military force, you can certainly make that case. But if you’re going to claim that terrorism is a barbaric tactic that has to be stamped out, you can hardly endorse its use by the United States just because it’s convenient in this particular case.

Case closed.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; reynolds

1 posted on 02/15/2007 10:39:38 AM PST by Hadean
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To: Hadean

Bomb the buildings where the Mad Mullahs are.
Bomb the Presidential palace.
Bomb their nuke plants.
Bomb the plants that make the weapons that are being exported to Iraq.
Maybe bomb their oil fields.


2 posted on 02/15/2007 10:46:55 AM PST by TBP
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To: Hadean
Reynolds apparently believes American assassins should infiltrate Iran to kill unnamed Iranian religious leaders

Radical mullahs are not religious. They are political and/or supremacists. White supremacists would not be described as ethnic spokesmen.

David Koresh "had religion" too but it was not a valid defense against assault.

3 posted on 02/15/2007 10:47:18 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: Hadean
Consistent with American tradition, international treaties, with virtual unanimity, deplore extra-judicial assassinations as the tools of savages and barbarians.

We live in a time when savages and barbarians either have, or are close to having, nuclear weapons. Treaties and traditions mean nothing if the signers of those treaties and the possessors of those traditions have been reduced to their atomic components.

4 posted on 02/15/2007 10:55:57 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Hadean
But if you’re going to claim that terrorism is a barbaric tactic that has to be stamped out, you can hardly endorse its use by the United States just because it’s convenient in this particular case.

I dunno...this treads a very fine line. I think the question is: If they think terrorism is the way to win whatever their political/religious agenda is, perhaps that it the only tactic we can use to make them understand that we will do what's necessary to not succumb to terrorism. I'm not sure "taking the moral high ground" is enough payback to let them destroy our way of life. Sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire, even when that fire is slimy and stinks.

I really need to think more on this before I summarily dismiss terrorism as an option.

5 posted on 02/15/2007 10:57:42 AM PST by econjack (I'd be a horrible President, but a great dictator)
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To: econjack

What this "author" does here is misidentify terrorism, in order to strike a moral equivalent.

Terrorism is the intentional, strategic, targeting of innocent civilians in order to strike "terror" into the population.

This is not the same as targeted assassinations of those who form, urge or implement that terror. Indeed, this is the most efficient, decent and responsible way to eliminate the problem while minimizing "collateral damage".


6 posted on 02/15/2007 11:13:45 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: econjack
I have often wondered why we don't drop a few rockets or bombs on one of the big parades those clowns have, and take out a couple of battalions of Hamas or any other anti-American crowd. That just might send the signal we're really serious about stopping this crap, and let all of them know that we know how to strike back. Wipe out a few of their t.v. stations while we're at it, and the rest will clean up their act too. As I've always said, when you have them by their gonads, their hearts and minds will follow. ( I cleaned that up in deference to the ladies on line.)
7 posted on 02/15/2007 11:18:01 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: prov1813man

Good points


8 posted on 02/15/2007 11:28:55 AM PST by econjack (I'd be a horrible President, but a great dictator)
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To: geezerwheezer

I honestly believe that, because they know our politicians will never have the guts to do something that is not politically correct, it emboldens them to take the actions that we are seeing now.

Further, I believe you're right...a few acts like you suggest would really lessen terrorists actions against the US. I also think a few snipers on the border with orders to "shoot to wound" would have a chilling effect on illegal immigration, too.


9 posted on 02/15/2007 11:35:50 AM PST by econjack
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To: Hadean

Let's bring it down to a local, personal level.

Memo to FBI, NSA, etc. The following is hypothetical.....there really is no 'crazy guy down the block', etc. This is just one of those analogy thingies.

Ok....a guy down the block is well-known in the neighborhood as a nut who believes the end of the world (as we know it) is imminent. He has repeatedly and publicly identified me as Satan incarnate. He has recently begun loudly announcing that he will kill me very soon. And, let's say I believe he'll do just what he says. What do I do besides move asap? But, I like it here.

In the old days maybe I'd just blow him, and any relatives who objected, away in his front yard. I'm not about to live in mortal fear of this schizophrenic moron. However, it's not the old days. So (due to insane, corrupt government and political correctness in general), I'm forced to devise some diabolical plot to 'do' him before he 'does' me. And, in a secretive manner. Don't forget, he's about to kill me (and possibly my family) any day now; and, I know it.

Bottom line: I'd figure it out and do whatever it takes; and soon.


10 posted on 02/15/2007 12:06:31 PM PST by fruitintheroom
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To: prov1813man

Bravo... Well-stated...


11 posted on 02/15/2007 12:08:58 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Hadean

It's only assassination if you get caught. We need to pick off the crazy critters and not get caught doing it.


12 posted on 02/15/2007 12:28:39 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Hadean
If we are to be a country that now sends death squads into nations with whom we are not at war ...

Regarding Iran that's a false premise. They have done more than enough that falls in the catergory of provocative acts of war. We can go back to the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut as an example. Hizb'Allah was spawned and nurtured by Iran.

13 posted on 02/15/2007 1:02:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Copperheads are killing our country.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Check with my tag line. Just do it, don't apologize and tell bashir asshat that he has 24 hours to give us the weapons that sadman sent him and he has tucked away in the bekkah valley.

Next.

14 posted on 02/15/2007 1:08:16 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Hadean

Attaching for later reference, here is Glenn Reynold's reply:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1788713/posts


15 posted on 02/22/2007 7:26:14 AM PST by faq
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