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To: ckilmer

And there are fringe groups of those of European descent who advocate violence toward those of non-European descent. What's your point (rhetorical)?


2 posted on 02/16/2007 8:15:15 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( New Update to Abortion Section of FRhomepage: it's now the Abortion/Euthanasia Section, for one.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Double standards


3 posted on 02/16/2007 8:16:52 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
The press secretary for the California Republican Party is the son of illegal aliens who came the USA 35 years ago. In this article he chronicles how in recent years there has been a massive change in the number and kind of illegals coming north. Including a crimnal element that is causing a deterioration in the quality of life of Americans. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

People have been referring to the Captains Quarters as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that -- for the numbers to be true -- it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.

Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms

From the FBI crime statistics * An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Illegal Alien Crime Wave

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

CRIMINAL HISTORY

More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice
7 posted on 02/16/2007 8:25:12 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Those "fringe groups of those of European descent" are in their own country. The Mexican invaders are not.

13 posted on 02/16/2007 8:46:48 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Unfortunately, this is typical of the left.


18 posted on 02/16/2007 11:53:30 AM PST by TBP
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And there are fringe groups of those of European descent who advocate violence toward those of non-European descent. What's your point (rhetorical)?

Maybe his point is the governmental attitudes towards 'European fringe groups' and groups like La Raza isn't exactly even handed. Multi million dollar philanthropic organizations across the country fund 'non-European' fringe groups, but I'm reasonably certain the FOrd Foundation has never provided a grant to Aryan Brotherhood.

19 posted on 02/16/2007 12:07:14 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

These groups are recieving positive PR on the MSM.

The Azlan and this group do not just recieve a free pass from CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, FNC, and ABCCBSNBC, they recieve an outright endorsement and favorable editing.

They selectivly cut out the "kill whity" parts for the "we want jobs"

It is like jimmy carter saying one leftist thing in spanish and another benign "for the children" thing in english.

The AP


21 posted on 02/16/2007 1:10:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And there are fringe groups of those of European descent who advocate violence toward those of non-European descent. What's your point (rhetorical)?

And the government is hot to give them free stuff and amnesty for their views. Oh, and a quarter of the country to shut them up.

Ja, right.

30 posted on 03/20/2007 10:07:02 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (?El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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