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To: Eva
The real problem is Europe's moral relativity, it makes it impossible to trust them, because they have no honor. But, Iran's nukes will be able to reach Europe, not the US, and we just might not come to the rescue this time.

Just to put a few things straight. Yes, Iranian nukes are theoretically able to reach Europe. But did you know that they also can reach the 5th Avenue in New York in the trunk of a Dodge sedan in combination with one of those suicide idiots? This should be far more effective -from the Iraninan point of view- than a direct attack of Europe that would for sure be answered immediately by a few hundred submarine based French warheads. The worst thing that could happen is, if they are able to steal the nuclear fuel for a bomb out of a former Soviet stockpile. In this case you Americans will probably never find out where the nuke in New York really came from. This scenario is far more probable than Iranian ICBMs on Europe.

Just to make you understand and to put some things straight: I have family in New York and therefore I have personal interest that such will never happen. We Europeans have no benefit if the US are falling.

Honour? BuHuHaHa! Yes we have honour. But that is a fundamental difference to being just your servant.

And talking about rescue - it was indeed convienient for us that you did the unpleasant work in Bosina and Serbia. It is the same thing like with Airbus and their subsidies. Leave this business to us Europeans and we are forced to solve those problems by ourselves. You see: American intervention can be politically contraproductive.

I don't believe in the whole hullaballoo over global warming, anyway. It's just leftist scare tactics to push for world socialism. It's not even good science, it's feminized science, just another postmodern metanarrative with a catastrophic ending that the socialists must save us from.

Well I do quite a lot of skiing in the Alps and I already was able to observe the outcome of the global warming by myself. The glaciers I know are just 2/3 of the size they have been in the 70ties, when I was a kid. There must be a reason for this. Ignoring the problem will not solve it.

I have nothing against something different than Kyoto if it helps to deal with the problem. Nevertheless you Americans waste far too much energy without any need. It would be in your own interest to find new solutions. Building more efficient cars and house is easy. Just buy the technology for it in Europe. ;)

77 posted on 02/20/2007 7:38:29 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

I am not saying the Earth's climate is not going through a warming phase, I am saying that this phase is not much different than one that ended about 1500 years ago, when the Vikings farmed Greenland and sailed the North seas in small wooden boats. There is very little evidence that anything man does to change his way of life will have much effect on climate change. George Bush does not control the weather. This is not to say that we shouldn't try to be more conservant and respectful of our environment, for the simple reason that it makes life more enjoyable.

As far as melting glaciers are concerned, yes, it is ashame that some glaciers are getting smaller, but others are increasing. It's a natural process. Mount Baker the glacier that is about an hour from our home, set a world record for snow fall a few years ago, 27 feet in one season. It actually made skiing a little difficult, as they had to keep closing the mountain to groom the trails. The snow was almost up to the chair lifts. You should try skiing there sometime, lots of snow, cheap lift tickets, and short lift lines.

As far as suitcase nukes are concerned, Al Qaeda claims to already have them. They claim to have smuggled them in through the Mexican border, but they haven't used them, so who knows? There is a lot of Russian nuclear fuel floating around the world. Life is uncertain and the Islamists are barbarians. It would be best to develop our own sources of energy and alternative fuels and become less dependent on the Middle East.

No, Europe has no honor, their leaders are nothing but greedy liars who sign agreements that they have no intention of keeping, just like the former USSR. Europe was never the servant of the US, it was quite the other way around. The US protected and helped Europe rebuild, not once but twice, after it self destructed. Now Europe is behaving like an averse two year old in a rebellious tanrum. No, there is no honor in moral relativity, only arrogance.


81 posted on 02/21/2007 8:37:11 AM PST by Eva
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