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To: cripplecreek
I'm a non evangelical conservative and I'm feeling pretty ignored as well.

You guys are starting to act like another person who didn't like being ignored:

8 posted on 02/18/2007 8:06:45 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Hildy

Youve lost your mind!


12 posted on 02/18/2007 8:11:00 AM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Hildy

And you people have adopted every insulting liberal tactic in the book. Insults, ridicule, and intimidation aren't going to win you any elections.

A week ago I would have told you I would pull the lever for whatever republican is on the ballot but that's looking increasingly unlikely.

Good luck.


14 posted on 02/18/2007 8:11:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Hildy
We are seeing the blow-back that I predicted in 03.

Given a place at the political table for the first time in over a decade, the far religious right immediately started acting like social democrats on steroids. They squandered their opportunity. The venom thet spewed spewed in the media in print and online from that particular segment of the G.O.P. especially in the Schiavo debacle was nothing short of hateful. What William Buckley called "the killing language.

I support the only legislator that has introduced a law to end abortions at the Federal Level and end Federal Judiciary review over State Law on such matters but you won't see social conservatives jumping on his bandwagon. He is not part of the Dobson Clan, and since his path to the same goal is different and because his motives and reasoning are different, then he is unacceptable to them.

Dobsons Focus on The Family joined with the horse racing tracks and Harrahs Casino to induce Bill Frist(R) to slip his personal morality Bill into a National Security Bill in the dead of night, so as to avoid open debate in the Senate on online gaming. Frists legacy will be for bringing out 25 to 39 year olds to vote in record numbers in the 2006 midterms. Would Rudy embrace such legislation? The Green Velvet Revolution produced several million new young democrat voters.

Libertarians can not stomach the Patriot Act, no matter how it is sold. A Patriot Act giving Government more power over it's citizens seems hypocritical when looked at side by side with the G.O.P. "open borders" policy. Rudy could pick up those votes but he would have to repudiate a big chunk of that onerous Bill. That seems unlikely. He needs to promote a border policy that those living in the Southwest can live with. He can't just write them off.

I could go on and on...our Party has not served us well.

The most conservative(defined as classic liberal) candidate running for office today is Dr. Ron Paul(r)

The GOP coalition has not been this fractured since 1976.

148 posted on 02/18/2007 10:52:38 AM PST by KDD
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To: Hildy

Some of these folks better stash their bunnies.


231 posted on 02/18/2007 3:19:28 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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