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Calling Giuliani on his many lies
World Net Daily ^ | 19 February 2007 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/19/2007 12:01:25 AM PST by Spiff

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To: Lurker

It's way, way early in this race. I do think Rudy is going to have to stake out some clear positions on the specifics of some of these issues. There's time for all of that.

But all this talk about Rudy ruining the Republican party is just nonsense. The Republican party died after the 1994 victory and the Contract with America. They took what was a massive victory and handed control back to the Democrats. They utterly failed to govern as the majority party. They don't know how. They still don't, and now they've finally ceded control back to the party that does know how to be the majority, sadly. The Republican party is dead, and has been for a long time.


81 posted on 02/20/2007 8:19:21 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Lurker; Pharmboy

I'll refer your question to Pharmboy.


82 posted on 02/20/2007 8:21:35 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I love pissing off liberals, both democrat and republican.)
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To: Dave W
No one can beat the Beast other than Rudy. Sorry.

I'll bet you never believed the Americans could beat the Russians in Olympic hockey in 1980, either. Pretty lame to give up the battle and lose so much conservative ground without even trying, especially given this much time before we even have a debate.

83 posted on 02/20/2007 8:28:01 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I love pissing off liberals, both democrat and republican.)
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To: Lurker

"When he wants to be Mayor of New York he says one thing. When he wants to be President he says something else. One of these positions is genuine, and another is not, or maybe neither is."

Very well stated. Rudy has attempted to move to the right, but his prior deeds and voting record follows him around like a 400 pound ex wife he owes money to.


84 posted on 02/20/2007 8:55:22 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Reagan would vote for Hunter)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Lurker; Pharmboy; Spiff
Interesting comment on NYC and concealed carry.

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2006/09/don_kates_on_cc.php

Having addressed these matters we turn to New York City another area where discretionary CCH permit issuance has led to gave abuse. In 2002 New York City denied an n application from the head of a small bank who often carries as much as $125,000 in cash. The denial was because "You have failed to distinguish yourself from countless others who do business in the city of New York without the benefit of carrying a concealed weapon."20What that language actually means is that the banker had failed to show the kind of celebrity or political influence needed to get a license in New York City. Who has that kind of celebrity or influence? Naming only some of the nationally famous New York CCH permittees as of October, 2002, NEWSDAY listed Donald Trum and Winthrop Rockefellerp; actors Steven Seagal, Robert De Niro, Chazz Palminteri, and Harvey Keitel, media personalities Don Imus, and Howard Stern, entertainer Buddy Hackett, record executive Tommy Mottola; and conservative icon William Buckley, founder of the NATIONAL REVIEW. The NEWSDAY article commented:

In 1981, nearly 30,000 New Yorkers (not including police) had permits to carry a weapon. As of September 1 of this year, the number was down to just 3,389. But the number of city officials, big shots and celebrities with permits is up. Deputy mayors, mayoral staff members, commissioners of education, environmental protection, taxis and licenses, sanitation, management, and a host of others all received permits. But the man in the street is denied his Second Amendment right. For the first nine months of 2002, citizen permits were denied 62% of the time, according to a study by Newsday.21

A few days before NEWSDAY had published an article noting that many of these city officials who had gotten CCH permits during the Giuliani administration, were now former officials. They had been replaced by members of the new mayor’s administration who were not being issued CCH permits. Apparently the new mayor saw no reason for his deputy mayors and commissioners having no connection to law enforcement to be running around New York City with guns.


85 posted on 02/20/2007 8:57:53 AM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: SJackson

Great find! I was one of those 30,000 in 1981.


86 posted on 02/20/2007 10:13:01 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: jonathanmo

Margin of error doesn't count for much in a landslide.

Show me any recent poll where Rudy beats in Hillary in New York.


87 posted on 02/20/2007 10:13:30 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Lurker
In 1981, after 6 month lag time, I received a carry permit for a .380 for NYC (without revealing personal info, I had a job that called for one and the City of NY agreed).

In 1983 I applied for and received a second carry for a revolver (occasionally the auto was in the shop). I renewed every 2 years on my birthday, no problem, through 2 democrat administrations in NYC. Then Rudy came along and a law-abiding citizen with a perfect record could not renew anymore.

88 posted on 02/20/2007 10:52:49 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

Interesting.


89 posted on 02/20/2007 10:54:24 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

See also post 86.


90 posted on 02/20/2007 11:03:08 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks, good to know.


91 posted on 02/20/2007 11:04:21 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pharmboy
30,000 fewer permits, 30,000 more criminals.

An assault weapon ban went into effect in Cook County, IL last week. A lot more criminals there than a month ago. Interesting to see how Mayor Daley will react to this new surge in criminality.

92 posted on 02/20/2007 11:16:13 AM PST by SJackson (I really wish the Jews in Judea an independent nation, John Adams)
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To: freedomfiter2

"So far, I'm satisfied that he has no intention of doing anything with gun control at the national level."

He called for a federal ban on ALL "assault weapons".

He called for uniform federal handgun licensing. Do you think he wants that licensing less strict than he had in NY?


93 posted on 02/21/2007 12:01:16 AM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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