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2008: Pilot Program: Repeal All Gun Laws For Five Years.
MND ^ | February 19, 2007 | By John Longenecker

Posted on 02/19/2007 3:22:35 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

Given the successes of those states issuing concealed carry permits to citizens, I suggest a nationwide pilot program: the repeal of all anti-gun laws – all 22,000 of them — for a period of five years. This includes a moratorium on all new gun laws for five years, and suspension of all court cases pending for weapons charges with the exception of violent crimes involving a gun. Owning a certain rifle is considerably different from holding up a liquor store with a gun.

The object is, of course, to demonstrate the truth and genius of the sovereignty of the law-abiding, and to give trial to the second amendment’s ageless place in our society. (Not that it needs it.) The question should be on the lips of every honest American: why do they constrain and punish the people who aren’t doing the criminal shootings, and how is this related to how I run my home? Why am I discouraged from acting in self-defense?

[Many social programs which are adverse to the nation a hundred ways are based on a fairly thin theory of violence, policies which impact how we run our homes, and which are somehow tied in to the gun laws one way or another. Repealing gun laws restores how we run our homes.]

For candidates genuinely interested in fighting crime, this is an interesting opportunity to determine which way to go as officials on the weapons debate: do we discourage ownership of weapons and resistance to crime by depressing personal authority and sovereignty, or do we encourage carrying weapons as a personal responsibility to the community in the absence of first responders (which is very often the case)? This is an opportunity for non-gun owners to discover for themselves which is best for the nation.

As I’ve written, states which operate CCW permits understand that they do not really authorize, they affirm, right to carry, and simply have an organized program for it. The important point is that irrespective of their belief system, they have not regretted placing their trust back into the hands of the people they serve. It’s praiseworthy. It works and it works well.

Remember that the MSM largely characterize a self-defense act as violent while much of law enforcement offices (not officers) see no crime in self-defense and view the gun owners not as adversaries, but as supporters and allies. And why not?

The Stand Your Ground laws are on the increase, as they call for perfecting one’s sovereignty by making someone acting in self-defense immune to civil lawsuit so their life cannot again be held hostage by civil litigation of the original belligerent. The anti-gun nuts characterize the Castle Doctrine as Make My Day laws – a disingenuous reference to Dirty Harry – and thereby join the criminal in harassing the honest. Don’t think for a second it is otherwise. The anti-gun groups hate this country. They just hate it.

Many states affirm right to carry while others require the applicant to show cause. More than 80 million people and then some (many of whom are adult constituents) would much prefer officials to drop this requirement for an applicant to convince officials of your goodness (or need) and join other states in affirming right to carry over disarmament based on recognition of the individual as the higher authority of the community. Many states see it this way and affirm concealed carry as an expression of this proper understanding. In these states, friends, you don’t have to convince someone of need – show cause – to exercise a civil right. Reasonable?

[Paramedics and other medical professionals endorse citizen CPR because EMS cannot always arrive with a life-saving response time of under three minutes. RTC states fully understand the crime analog of this; that law enforcement cannot arrive with a life-saving response time, either, plus the fact that police have no such duty to protect individuals, anyway. Okay. Given that, what’s the smart thing to do for your loved ones?]

Now here’s something in the news every household ought to know. For every household looking for information upon which to adjust their best informed decision on household safety planning, here is something for you to look at:

The Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms reports an interesting observation: an FBI Study that answers some interesting questions for heads of households on this subject is being ignored by the MSM. As I said, they join the thugs who kill people.

BELLEVUE, WA – For more than two months, a damning report on a five-year study by the Federal Bureau of Investigation about how cop-killing criminals ignore gun laws and where they get their guns has languished in the shadows, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms revealed today.

“The public has a right to know the contents of this report, which was revealed to the International Association of Chiefs of Police last year,” said CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron. “According to the Force Science News, research focused on 40 incidents involving assaults or deadly attacks on police officers, in which all but one of the guns involved had been obtained illegally, and none were obtained from gun shows.”

Why isn’t the MSM reporting this? Isn’t it significant that to so-called ‘gun show loophole’ is a lie? What do you think the rest is if thousands of such reports are analyzed? Isn’t it important that the so-called ‘loophole’ is found by the FBI to be untrue? Isn’t it interesting that gun owners knew all along it was untrue?

It’s again demonstrated that crooks not only ignore laws, but that they’re not even getting their weapons in the way the anti-gun crowd has said they’re getting their weapons. Why, then, impose more restrictions on the people who aren’t criminals? Check out the story here.

Meanwhile, New Orleans is found to be in contempt of court for refusing to return weapons taken against the law following Hurricane Katrina. Nation of laws?

Let’s start a pilot program of suspending all gun laws, a moratorium on all new gun laws, and the suspension of certain weapons charges not violence-related. Why? Because anti-gun laws adversely affect even the non-gun owner households and our way of life.

The idea is this: when officials recognize personal independence as they affirm in many states at this time, certain things happen, things the Left doesn’t want to be proven: lives are saved and crime goes down because violence is de-escalated by the victim who refuses to be a victim. Personal authority already exists to do this, and it has been silenced, misled and covered up by the MSM among other groups who have an interest in keeping violence up.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and when independence shines through, as it was meant to shine through for the safety of the nation, it discredits the concept of banning weapons. People can defuse and de-escalate many, many personal attacks so that, often, no one at all gets hurt. Too many politicians depend on your getting hurt for their cause to endure, and that stinks. It just stinks. Too many social programs written on a theory of violence hurt innocent persons, too, and that stinks.

What about someone getting hurt in the pilot program with so many guns around? Well, there are two answers: One, there are already many guns around, and there’s no problem except with the thugs. There’s also a problem with knives, beatings, rapes, abductions… you get it.

But primarily, why don’t you let us worry about that? I can say this with confidence and call the Left’s bluff, because for all the dire forecasts of violence with weapons in the hands of citizens, none has come true. Where right-to-carry is affirmed, there is no increase in violence, no hot-heat shootings, no trigger-happy spouses or road rage, and none of the dire predictions of the left. After decades, the right-to-carry, shall-issue states speak for themselves as a model for the entire nation. None of the predictions of the left has come true. None.

And there’s no gun show loophole.

The opposition is afraid of one thing: that they and their programs won’t be needed. They’re already unwanted and questioned, but when independence shines through, it’ll be proven that they’re really not necessary to cure social ills, either. The armed citizen is a safeguard against such stupid, imposing, unneeded programs.

It’s time for Congress to investigate this pilot program nationwide as a response to violent crime as an issue. The answer is, of course, liberty and recognition of the citizen’s sovereignty.

Understand, members of Congress, that we do not take the law into our own hands – we are the law.

Nothing could recognize that better than repealing all gun laws.


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1 posted on 02/19/2007 3:22:38 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Wow!
I'm with you man. I'll have a double of whatever you're drinking.
2 posted on 02/19/2007 3:28:43 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

An armed society is a polite society.


3 posted on 02/19/2007 3:31:24 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Malone LaVeigh

And I'll have two FA FAL's, an M3 grease gun, an M1928 Thompson, a couple of AK's, a half dozen Stens, one MAG58, a German M34, oh, and a GE minigun!


4 posted on 02/19/2007 3:40:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

OOoh, count me in. I've had my eye on a XM214 for a long time. Throw in a truck bed mount while I'm at it.

Now if I can just get the mortgage to fire it once, I'll be a happy camper.

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun.htm


5 posted on 02/19/2007 3:47:28 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Man that would be better than the blue pill!


6 posted on 02/19/2007 3:50:49 PM PST by jrd
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To: EagleUSA
An armed society is a polite society. ... or else.;{)
7 posted on 02/19/2007 4:02:34 PM PST by fwdude (LEFT LANE ENDS . . . MERGE RIGHT)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Great, this is exactly what I want:

The free and clear ability of a band of 20 Muslim terrorists, many with prior felony convictions, most out on bail after having been arrested for conspiracy to attack and kill the wives of U.S Army soldiers serving in Iraq, all in the country illegally, being perfectly able to go buy M-60s.

What was this fool thinking... or drinking?

8 posted on 02/19/2007 4:20:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26
If your band of 20 merry muslims had a hankerin' for whatever type of gun met their fancy, there's not a law in this land that would keep them from getting them.

At least, with this idea, the rest of us could arm oursevles to defend against them.

9 posted on 02/19/2007 4:28:03 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"oh, and a GE minigun!"

basically, I suspect if you could afford one. . . you could figure out how to legally own one.


10 posted on 02/19/2007 4:30:28 PM PST by stompk
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To: stompk

a GE minigun? If you can afford one, you still have to feed it.


11 posted on 02/19/2007 4:34:39 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: stompk

If gun laws were completely repealed for 5 years, the market would be flooded with any machine gun you could think about. Currently I think that there are about 2 transferrable miniguns and the going price is northof $200,000. Now, imagine if there were 1,000 on the market for sale. They would sell for what it cost to manufacture them plus a moderate profit. Right now a transferrable Sten costs $2500 to $3000, yet a cut up kit in otherwise perfect shape costs $99. An AK kit costs $99 and a transferrable AK-47 cost $10,000. Are you starting to see what the REAL open market value of automatic weapons are?


12 posted on 02/19/2007 4:46:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: MindBender26

"The free and clear ability of a band of 20 Muslim terrorists..... being perfectly able to go buy M-60s."


....and what makes you think they didn't bring them with them when they strolled across our southern border????

This would, at least, help levfel the playing field.


13 posted on 02/19/2007 4:53:27 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: Nasty McPhilthy; Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger; SJackson

BTTT


14 posted on 02/19/2007 4:55:47 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"And I'll have two ..."
Quad Ma Deuce mounted on a jeep. Pesky pigeons.


15 posted on 02/19/2007 5:08:03 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Count me in.


16 posted on 02/19/2007 5:28:35 PM PST by Sender ("Great powers should never get involved in the politics of small tribes.")
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To: MindBender26

Sorry. I agree with the guy. Those muslim terrorists will get their guns anyway just as the gang bangers do.


17 posted on 02/19/2007 7:33:02 PM PST by therut
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
We don't need all the stupid anti-gun laws. There are already laws against murder, assault and robbery. The choice of weapon is irrelevant. It is the violation of person or property that is the crime.

If the suggested action was enacted tomorrow, the only impact on my behavior would be to enjoy putting a rifle stock onto my T/C Encore frame for use with some of my 15" barrels. I'm sure I could go through the appropriate actions to get my T/C frame authorized and engraved for use as an SBR. It's a lot of silly bureaucracy. My time is worth more to me than the value of filling out all the paperwork. I can just buy the legal length rifle barrel for much less cost and effort.

18 posted on 02/19/2007 8:02:30 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: MindBender26
The ones that blew up the World Trade Center the first time had an FFL and class III weapons. If you wanted to sneak in a load of full auto AK-47s, or other arms, what would stop you? Unload them and put them in the gas tank of a few cars, crates marked machine parts, something like that. They'd never be detected.

Your thought sounds good - 'We've got to keep these terrorists (or criminals, or whatever) from getting dangerous weapons," but it won't work. They'll do whatever they want, including building truck bombs and hijacking airplanes full of hundreds of people to use as weapons. That particular act, September 11th, should make it clear that these guys will stop at nothing to get what they want. The only way to fight them is to shoot back.

19 posted on 02/20/2007 3:21:16 AM PST by sig226 (How to argue global warming and the Democrat Culture of Corruption - see my profile.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The MP-5s we use as demos cost $1500.00. If you want to buy one in excellent condition, the current price is around $20,000.00. An RDIAS for the AR is worth about $50.00, mostly due to the cost of machining the parts.


20 posted on 02/20/2007 3:25:05 AM PST by sig226 (How to argue global warming and the Democrat Culture of Corruption - see my profile.)
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