Perspectives : The way to electoral suicide — vote Giuliani

One News Now ^ | Feb 20, 2007 | Matt Friedeman

[xhrist]

"BUT you better not screw the rest of us, and elect a Hillary or Obama, ... GROW UP and stop being so SELFISH."

so if I don't vote for your R candidate or the D candidate
I am being selfish???

The freedom to vote is that fickle huh?

[FreedomNeocon]

There is a difference between choosing to not actively support a republican primary candidate, and actively seeking to tear down and 'rule out' voting for a republican primary candidate that might end up being our choice (and everyone conditioned to rather a democrat, like its an IMPROVEMENT or something)

Its just so selfish.. its all about 'them' and showing everyone else how 'pure conservative' they are and how they only will accept perfection.

I think some people got spoiled being in power and don't really understand how completely USELESS all of their concerns will be, if they 'expect' that every issue will just magically line up for them in some karmic alignment of Reganism.

[Antoninus]

GROW UP and stop being so SELFISH.

You want to win the election? Give us a conservative. Failing that, prepare to embrace defeat.

Fair warning, friend.

[flashbunny]

Politicians have to EARN my vote. They are not granted a right to it by the letter next to their name.

[paudio]

Better to lose an election and reload ideologically than try to cheer on and take cues from a man with a worldview radically divergent from your own.

And for sure getting somebody like A. Fortas, T. Marshall, R. Ginsburg, and/or S. Breyer? Of course, a Republican president may appoint a 'wrong' person as well, but with a Democrat as a president and Democrat Congress, we'll get 100% liberal. If this happens for 8 yrs, God help us.

[snarks_when_bored]

Last time I checked, Reagan was still dead. Politics is the art of the possible.

[flashbunny]

Thanks. I have more on the way, all for appropriate situations / threads.

[Usually_Disappointed]

"YOU people have no clue what Rudy is all about. YOU refuse to accept his statements and actions on these issues. Grow up."

Why would I accept his statements on issues when his actions on the same issues prove he is simply lying to get my vote? Maybe when you grow up you will develop some principals...

[TSchmereL]

You are right. It is moronic because we haven't had a Conservative Republican president like Ronald Reagan since Ronald Reagan.

[beltfed308]

We're on the same side :>)

[dmw]

Put me on your ping list please. Thanks!

[Little Ray]

Actually, NO, I won't vote for Rudy. Under any circumstances. If the Pubbies despise conservatives so much that they'll go for Rudy, then I can bloody well skip that line on the ballot. My Senators and Congresscritter are are okay (usually), and there are local races, but if the GOP wants to hand the banner to Rudy, then they can kiss my vote good-bye. Hillary! can have it. If you're gonna vote for evil, why settle for the lesser evil?

[FreedomNeocon]

No, you have every right to be selfish and myopic...

Just like I have the right to burn down my house if my wife burns dinner.

I mean... that will show her.

Does that mean its a good idea?

Actions have consequences and it seems to me you are more concerned with how you look, or how you are perceived, than about what actually happens.

You seem perfectly fine with a democrat getting elected, because you wanted to "make a point" and vote some 3rd party. Its fine in your mind because "you knew better" and it wasn't you that made the mistake, it was the rest of the republican party that didn't agree with you.


Again... purely selfish... you you you.

What about the rest of us?

What about the results of your 3rd party 'protest' vote?

What about the democrats in office, running all branches again?

What about the conservatives who are primarily worried about National Security and Foreign Policy, where Rudy is just as strong as Bush?

What about the rest of us?

... or is it all about you?

[AxelPaulsenJr]

If you're gonna vote for evil, why settle for the lesser evil?

Good gawd!

[TSchmereL]

Rudy isn't fooling anyone. Rudy is a Liberal with a capital L.

That being said, I do not join those who say they would never vote for him. If it comes down to a choice between Rudy, the Liberal, and Hillary, the Communist, I will vote and even campaign for Rudy.

We don't have to change the definition of "Conservative." It is still important to defeat the Democrats.

[Usually_Disappointed]

Did I miss a sacrasm tag?

[Rudder]

There are others of us who will either leave the presidential portion of the ballot unmarked or decide for the first time in our lives to vote, say, the Constitution Party.

The author sounds like a spoiled child.

[Lucas McCain]

"You 'I'm not going to vote for anybody other than Ronald Reagan" types are morons.'"

Amen to that.

[Reagan Man]

If you look at Rudy`s track liberal record as Mayor of NYCity, instead of accepting his recent rhetoric at face value, you'll better understand his politics. Mayor Rudy appointed mostly liberal judges to the NYCity courts. Few Republicans and NO cosnervatives. Even other positions in the city government were awarded to liberals.

Using Rudy`s record as a guide, its a good bet as Prez he would nominate jurists in the mold of Lawrence Tribe, George Mitchell and Alan Dershowitz, then he would nominate originalists like Scalia, Thomas, and Rehnquist.

[stephenjohnbanker]

LOL!