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Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
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| 2/23/07
| Ariella Ringel-Hoffman
Posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
"Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen!"
To: AnAmericanMother
I do not know how common the names were in that place and time. The one brother is listed in the article as Jofa or Joseph, which contradicts his name being known as James. Thus, I think we are much more likely to be reading about the burial site of a family who happen to have similar names and not the "True Tomb." My interest is more in what we can learn about the time in which Jesus lived. I love history and finds like this can yield lots of information so long as the researchers do not try to impose their own preconceptions.
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:55:36 AM PST
by
RebelBanker
(May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
To: AnAmericanMother
the ossuary was an authentic one of the period. i believe the inscription was thought to have been added in modern days with mistakes in the linguistics which gave it away. also the patina over the inscription didn't match the original one of the ossuary itself. something like that.
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:55:38 AM PST
by
avital2
To: Rb ver. 2.0
Maybe Jimmy Hoffa is there.
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:55:56 AM PST
by
boomop1
(there you go again)
To: Condor51
"Inside the cave they also found the remains of: King Arthur, Jimmy Hoffa, Judge Crater, Amelia Earhart, Five Japanese Soldiers who still didn't know WWII ended, and ... every 'Lost Sock' that ever disappeared in the wash! (that alone was HUGH!)"
My daughters Razr phone is missing, I wonder if it is in there? And if so I wonder what Fed Ex would charge to overnight from Israel?
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:56:00 AM PST
by
HereInTheHeartland
(Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
To: NoBullZone
People who make claims like the ones in the Da Vinci Code based on his painting of the Last Supper make me laugh. First of all, everyone in that portrait...is Italian. That's because Da Vinci wasn't really there. What if he had put a monkey on a unicycle in it?
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:56:51 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: Semi Civil Servant
Well, the problem with detecting fraud is that you need professional skeptics to do it. I used to be a professional skeptic of sorts (an arson investigator) and I was often impressed by the ingenuity and diligence of the subjects. If some of them had decided to use all that brain power and hard work in an honest job, they could have avoided all that prison stuff . . .
Many "respected scientists" were fooled by Uri Geller, for example -- it took a skeptic and professional illusionist to unmask him.
I remember reading an article in Popular Science by a fellow (Walter somebody?) who used an iron oxide powder and wrapped fabric around a 3-dimensional model. What he got was pretty close. You'll never have an exact duplication at this far a remove (fabric, chemicals, etc. are so different now).
What it boils down to is the burden of proof. The burden lies on the advocates to support their somewhat improbable conclusions -- not on the skeptics to prove that the shroud is a forgery. So many people look at it the other way around -- and award a "tie" to the advocates of the shroud.
I find it interesting, but it has no effect on my faith in Christ either way. The Sacrifice and Resurrection are what's really remarkable here.
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:58:14 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: RebelBanker
One of the "caskets" would be empty......of that, I'm sure!
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posted on
02/23/2007 6:59:46 AM PST
by
MrLee
To: Rb ver. 2.0
If this were true wouldnt it at least be in Time and Newsweek?
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posted on
02/23/2007 7:01:12 AM PST
by
woofie
To: Amanda75
Correct me if I am wrong, but ? I don't even think people in that part of the world at that time in history buried people in caskets like we know here in the west.
Didn't the Jews bury people in grave cloths with embalming spices and place them in some kind of tomb ? cave ?
Isn't the phenomenon of burying people in caskets a thing in the European ( New world - USA ) ? and not the middle east ?
To: Rb ver. 2.0
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posted on
02/23/2007 7:02:10 AM PST
by
TBP
To: Squire of St. Michael
Since the fabric has been identified as of Mediterranean origin, the presence of pollen from that area is completely unremarkable. The negative image is explained by the impression-of-an-object theory.
Medieval people weren't as 'backward' as everyone seems to think. The idea of the Dark Ages was a Victorian construct -- they did so love to put everything in pigeonholes.
I could see a valuable length of fabric brought back by a Crusader venerated as a burial shroud -- and then an enterprising artist decides to improve on nature, so to speak.
Read a short story by Rudyard Kipling, "Dayspring Mishandled", for a short course in medieval forgery.
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posted on
02/23/2007 7:02:18 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: Rb ver. 2.0
Since James Cameron is involved, I guess that we can expect some really cool, state of the art, CGI in this crockumentary. Arnold might even show up in a cameo.
"I'll be back!"
To: BigCinBigD
But there is a resurrection, therefore the grave hath no victory, and the sting of death is swallowed up in Christ.
To: jude24
As though the names Joshua, Joseph, Judah, and Miriam were anything but common in the Middle East? Those are all OT patriarchal names - sort of like John, Joe, or Jim today.Today they'd call him Joshua Josephson, though Greta would turn him into "J.J." before the week was out. (And if she didn't Rita Cosby would.)
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posted on
02/23/2007 7:05:41 AM PST
by
TBP
To: RebelBanker
I'm sure there's a vial of Jesus' DNA at Jerusalem lab.
To: noname07718
Yeah, this give those who claim global warming and melting if ice something to think about is their other agenda and quest to disprove the Bible.
Maybe God is purposely causing global ( not by man's hands or causes ) warming for a reason ?
To: Victor
I thought Jesus was wrapped in a shroud and laid on a shelf in a cave. When the cave was opened, all that was left, was the shroud. Not a coffin.
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posted on
02/23/2007 7:08:29 AM PST
by
tillacum
(Dispite the dark days of Ratdom, conservatives will prevail.)
To: Rb ver. 2.0
HAHAHHAHAHAH!! What a FARCE!!
To: RebelBanker
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