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Jesusí burial site found - film claims
http://www.ynetnews.com ^ | 2/23/07 | Ariella Ringel-Hoffman

Posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0

The cave in which Jesus Christ was buried has been found in Jerusalem, claim the makers of a new documentary film.

If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history.

The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene will be displayed for the first time on Monday in New York.

Jointly produced by Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and Oscar winning director James Cameron, the film tells the exciting and tortuous story of the archaeological discovery.

The story starts in 1980 in Jerusalem’s Talpiyot neighborhood, with the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave containing ten coffins. Six of the ten coffins were carved with inscriptions reading the names: Jesua son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Matthew, Jofa (Joseph, identified as Jesus’ brother), Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).

Decades of research

The findings in the cave, including the decipherment of the inscriptions, were first revealed about ten years ago by internationally renowned Israeli archeologist Professor Amos Kloner.

Since their discovery, the caskets were kept in the Israeli Antiquities Authority archive in Beit Shemesh, but now two have been sent to New York for their first public exhibition.

Although the cave was discovered nearly 30 years ago and the casket inscriptions decoded ten years ago, the filmmakers are the first to establish that the cave was in fact the burial site of Jesus and his family.

The film, which documents the stages of the discovery, is the result of three years labor and research. It will be broadcast on the international Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada’s Vision and Israel’s Channel 8, which also took part in the film's production.

According to the filmmakers, the film’s claim is based on close work with world-famous scientists, archeologists, statisticians, DNA specialists and antiquities experts.


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1 posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:40 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I thought Dan Brown said they ended up in France. < /sarc>


2 posted on 02/23/2007 5:52:35 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

"...filmmakers are the first to establish that the cave was in fact the burial site of Jesus and his family."

I feel a Geraldo moment coming on!!


3 posted on 02/23/2007 5:54:06 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).

Jesus' son?

4 posted on 02/23/2007 5:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Tracing paternal DNA should prove interesting.

Maybe we'll all end up Jewish again!


5 posted on 02/23/2007 5:54:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0; SunkenCiv; blam

More laughable claims, with highly questionable "archeology".


6 posted on 02/23/2007 5:54:33 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Oh well, at least the cave's not on Mt. Ararat.


7 posted on 02/23/2007 5:54:47 AM PST by Grut
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Simcha Jacobovici

That is "The Naked Archaeologist".

I find his programs very interesting, but I remain skeptical of any so-called authentic coffins.

9 posted on 02/23/2007 5:56:34 AM PST by Constitution Day
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Jesua son of Joseph

Obviously a different family. My Jesus was the Son of God, and he didn't stay in his burial cave more than 3 days...........

10 posted on 02/23/2007 5:57:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: RebelBanker
Short answer -- no.

Just more of the periodic hype from publicists who think they can get some notoriety from these exaggerated (if not entirely baseless) claims.

Like the ossuary that supposedly had "so-and-so, son of Jesus" on it, that turned out to be a forgery.

11 posted on 02/23/2007 5:57:39 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Rb ver. 2.0; xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; Gamecock; jude24; Dr. Eckleburg; ...

He ain't there.


12 posted on 02/23/2007 5:57:55 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (If you don't support their mission, you don't support the troops.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Interesting, I'll be watching for it. Not that it will change or influence my belief in Jesus Christ at all.
13 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:06 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Joe 6-pack

France, dark cave....whta's the difference?


14 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Let's see. 2000 years ago the Roman and Jewish authorities that ruled the region wamted real hard to find the body but couldn't even though it was buried in a tomb with his entire family and with his name on the casket.

But now some archaeologist has done so. Better to trust the Bible than either the press or the academy.


15 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:18 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
The MSM and the Left will get ahold of this one to prove that Jesus died and was buried like everyone else...no resurrection, etc.

Oh, and that he also had a family and he was just this regular guy...what's the big deal about Jesus? (Closing the Manifesto and putting it away)

16 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:19 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Red Badger

What does this mean, are they trying to say our religion is a hoax??? This is the first I have heard of this one, scarey.


17 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:42 AM PST by Amanda75 (Amanda75)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

For some reason I thought they would talk about what was in the coffins.


18 posted on 02/23/2007 5:59:22 AM PST by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
"... could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history."

Hooey. "Jesus' tomb" is remarkable not for what's in it but for what isn't in it.

19 posted on 02/23/2007 5:59:51 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Where did the DNA come from??????


20 posted on 02/23/2007 6:00:12 AM PST by Amanda75 (Amanda75)
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To: Red Badger
"France, dark cave....whta's the difference?"

One is a place immersed in darkness, a dead end, void of any positive stimuli. The other is a hole in the ground.

21 posted on 02/23/2007 6:01:33 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Amanda75

"Where did the DNA come from??????"

Why the great-great-great-grandkids of course!


22 posted on 02/23/2007 6:02:08 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Another attack on Christianity by the King of Lies.
Move on, folks, nothing to see here.


23 posted on 02/23/2007 6:02:43 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: BigDaddyTX

I'd rather hear them talk about the presence of coffins themselves. My understanding of Jewish burial customs of the time is that coffins weren't used; certainly not in a "cave" type of interment.


24 posted on 02/23/2007 6:04:08 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Corin Stormhands; OrthodoxPresbyterian; P-Marlowe

This claim has more holes than Cincinnati's interstates.

Jesus' son???
Coffins?
Mary Magdalene?

So, the Jewish and Christian people sat idly by while incredible claims were being made about folks who were living right there in their midst?

The stupidity of the whole argument is beyond comment.


25 posted on 02/23/2007 6:04:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

About 200 people have already written this novel. The chances of finding a given common Jew from 2000 years ago is too small to measure.

But maybe this will shake the trees in the Christian world.


26 posted on 02/23/2007 6:05:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0; Corin Stormhands; xzins; P-Marlowe
Jesua son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Matthew, Jofa (Joseph, identified as Jesus’ brother), Judah son of Jesua

As though the names Joshua, Joseph, Judah, and Miriam were anything but common in the Middle East? Those are all OT patriarchal names - sort of like John, Joe, or Jim today.

27 posted on 02/23/2007 6:05:09 AM PST by jude24
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To: Amanda75

Luke 21

7"Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?"

8He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them. 9When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away."


28 posted on 02/23/2007 6:05:50 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

The filmmakers conceeded off camera if the coffins didn't contain the remains of Jesus and Mary they might have found Jimmy Hoffa and Whitey Bolger !!!


29 posted on 02/23/2007 6:06:06 AM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

5


30 posted on 02/23/2007 6:06:22 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (Buy High--Sell HIGHER)
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To: bjc
"I feel a Geraldo moment coming on!!"

Open the coffin, live, on TV?

31 posted on 02/23/2007 6:06:32 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Unlikely.

Regards, Ivan

32 posted on 02/23/2007 6:07:11 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL!!!....


33 posted on 02/23/2007 6:07:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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...the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave...

Are they implying that the cave appeared two thousand years ago? Someone dug it then? Someone started using it then?

34 posted on 02/23/2007 6:10:01 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: william clark

Yeah. I always thought that Jesus was wrapped in a shroud before placed in the tomb. (Shroud of Turin)


35 posted on 02/23/2007 6:10:47 AM PST by peteram
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To: Grut

Just a question. Has the snow/ice started to recede from Mt. Ararat? I hear that Mt. Kilimanjaro, Fuji and a whole host of other peaks are going to be bare in the near future; I was wondering if we will finally be able to Noah’s ark without the ice problems.


37 posted on 02/23/2007 6:11:38 AM PST by noname07718
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Ten "coffins?" Carved mahogony? Just joking. LOL

Jesus' family wasn't wealthy. How did they afford such an elaborate set up with engravings, etc?

38 posted on 02/23/2007 6:14:28 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Oh, I'd like to see them try to prove that. I really would.


39 posted on 02/23/2007 6:14:31 AM PST by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and boy, is He ticked off. [I'm trying to keep it clean.])
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Actually I think they were buried in the Bahamas.


40 posted on 02/23/2007 6:15:19 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You may recall that after the 4th Century there was a great market for religious articles, Christian ones in particular. The "True Cross" the handkerchief of Veronica, ect ect.

Later, during the Crusades, "the lance that pierced Jesus' side" was discovered, based on a strong need, and a "vision", but recent tests showing it dated to the 11th century. The "Grail" was discovered, but pawned to finance some venture, and now lives in Spain.

Of course, I think the archeologists are being careful, and bringing out the information very slowly.

I personally believe that Paul's letters point to a philisophical Jesus, which some didn't think would fly, so they used Mark's cover story for the special recipe for the magic Mushroom as the basis for inventing a physical Jesus, per John Allegro's book "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross".

In many ways Jesus was a modernization of the Mithra cult that got a great bonus when the pole star moved from Taurus, thus slaying "the great bull". Someone was moving the heavens, and Mithra was as good an explanation as any.

Joseph Smith Jr, in like manner, made up his holy books based on the fictional manuscript he stole when hired as a well digger.

Islam? The Quran was written hundreds of years after Mohammed, and they put in what would justify the recent bout of Arab agression. Alas, high taxes had made the Eastern Roman empire poor and weak, and battles over religious orthodoxy had made many look to Islam (which had no holy book to fight over as yet!) as the next best thing to liberation.

Your mileage may vary.


41 posted on 02/23/2007 6:15:43 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
The "cave" contained in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre dates back at least to the time of Constantine and likely further. It would seem that tradition would have given some credence to this site. I am very skeptical at the claim of this new cave being the burial cave of not only Jesus, but his family members.
42 posted on 02/23/2007 6:15:52 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Have the relics performed any miracles? Say, smiting the archaeologists with leprosy, or something similar, like making the lame to see? If yes, then they are genuine articles, and if not - then bogus.


43 posted on 02/23/2007 6:16:28 AM PST by GSlob
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To: william clark

I believe they used ossuaries, didn't they?


44 posted on 02/23/2007 6:17:32 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: rrc

His coffin in in Medina, inside a Mosque. You can find it on Google earth.

What is missing is the great sense of virtue which drove him at age 52 to consumate his latest marriage with a 9 year old.


45 posted on 02/23/2007 6:17:38 AM PST by donmeaker (The speed of light is 186,234 miles per second. Not just a good idea, its the LAW!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Folks have been trying to disprove the ressurection ever since it happened, and have not been able to substantiate any of their claims.


46 posted on 02/23/2007 6:17:51 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Red Badger
Exactly!

It's that fact those HE rose again - He resurrected - death COULD NOT hold him - that makes Him The King of Kings!

Don't need these people to show or tell me anything for.... IT IS WRITTEN!
47 posted on 02/23/2007 6:18:03 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).

Son of 'Da Vinci Code'.

48 posted on 02/23/2007 6:18:12 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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To: BigDaddyTX

"For some reason I thought they would talk about what was in the coffins."

That was the first question that popped in my mind....are there ANY bodies in the coffins.....?


49 posted on 02/23/2007 6:18:46 AM PST by auto power
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To: pillut48

In some circumstances, I believe so.


50 posted on 02/23/2007 6:19:01 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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