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Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
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| 2/23/07
| Ariella Ringel-Hoffman
Posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: massgopguy
Go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
141
posted on
02/23/2007 7:30:16 AM PST
by
steve-b
(It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
To: Prophet in the wilderness
Normally they were put in a tomb, for as much as a year, embalmed and wrapped in cloth, after which the bones were gathered and put in carved boxes. These boxes were smaller than our modern coffins, normally just long enough to hold the femur, and the other bones packed around it.
The cave in question was discovered in 1980, and the bones found in it was reburied. I could not find any detailed description of whether all the boxes contained bones. There may have been some fragments to conduct DNA tests on, which would prove or disprove lineage among those buried there.
However, it may not even be relevant, since other scholars who examined similar burial boxes came to the conclusion that any mention of Jesus name were dedications or commemorative, like we see on modern tombstones, and it may be similar here.
The other theory, already mentioned, is that this may simply be coincidence, with common names from the era. At least three pieces of evidence point that way, the son of Jesus (not mentioned in any historical source), name of his brother (inconsistent with the NT account), and then the fact that there are two Mary's in the tomb, without any historical evidence that the Christian Jesus was married to a Mary before He was crucified and bore a son(the only way that the proposed hypothesis could hold true). We will have to see the movie to understand who they exactly say the ten people are buried in the tomb. The presence of a "Matthew" in a family tomb is also unclear to me right now.
Also, just in the NT account, there are two other instances of the name (Jesus) derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" mentioned (Luk 3:29 and Col 4:11), it was a pretty common name at the time.
To: Joe 6-pack
"France, dark cave....whta's the difference?"One is a place immersed in darkness, a dead end, void of any positive stimuli. The other is a hole in the ground.
May I add that one contains pale, blind creatures that feed off of the dead carcasses of each other.
The other is a hole in the ground.
One typically contains bats and spiders in its upper reaches.
The other is a hole in the ground.
One is an above-ground hole.
The other is a hole in the ground.
143
posted on
02/23/2007 7:30:46 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: Rb ver. 2.0
I'm sure at least one of the the coffins was empty.
144
posted on
02/23/2007 7:31:38 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: Fitzcarraldo
Actually I think they were buried in the Bahamas.Now stop it! That's a vicious lie!
There has to be a televised trial first.
145
posted on
02/23/2007 7:36:13 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: sevenbak
Great! Now Al Gore can take credit for building Noahs Ark.
To: kalee
Oscar winning director James Cameron of Titanic fame. Yuck what a over-long boring movie.At least it has a happy ending: Leonardo Dicaprio dies.
147
posted on
02/23/2007 7:46:12 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: Suzy Quzy
"What else has James Cameron done?"
Actually Cameron is a very good director but in this case I think he's looking at the hundreds of millions the DaVini Code made and he wants to get in on the act.
148
posted on
02/23/2007 7:48:45 AM PST
by
joebuck
To: rightinthemiddle
"But those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE," he added. Now the most common Jewish names are Cohen, Goldman, Silverman, Youngman, Spiderman...etc.
149
posted on
02/23/2007 7:51:51 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign .. that is true, but, God revels himself to those who seek him, and seek him in humility and truth.
Jesus said, blessed are those who believe, but do not see ( physical evidence ).
I wonder how they can disprove what was found in the east branch of the Red Sea, with all of the Chariot wheels and all of the evidence that some kind of army was destroyed by the waters flooding back on them.
The water in this part of the east branch of the Red Sea is about 5000 feet deep, and there is a sand bridge about 1000 feet in the middle of the water.
( .. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm .. )
What ? some will say that some just vandalized and thrown these chariot wheel in the water that is over 1000 feet deep ? in a body of water that is about ( from one side to the other ) that is about 11 miles ?
Not very likely.
To: Suzy Quzy
Was the name "Jesus" common back then?Only among South American baseball players.
151
posted on
02/23/2007 8:06:56 AM PST
by
Ignatz
("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
To: Suzy Quzy
I think that is the Greek name for Yeshua.
Yeshua was his Hebrew name.
To: All
This is really going to upset the mythicists who said there never was a real, historical Jesus.
To: noname07718
I was wondering if we will finally be able to Noahs ark without the ice problems. Heck, we've found it in three or four places as is!
154
posted on
02/23/2007 8:14:17 AM PST
by
Grut
To: Rb ver. 2.0
I wonder which of his own versions of things he believes. Back in 2003, he released a documentary promoting the fantasy of the ossuary that reads, "James son of Joseph brother of Jesus." Now he says that James was really in a coffin, honest, he means it this time.
He won an Intermedia-globe Silver Award for that fraud. He should really clean up with this one. Do I hear Oscar? I wonder where he will find Jesus's brother's body next. Will it take another three years for the next documentary Will James turn up in the Valley of Kings next or perhaps France?
So many questions.
To: reagan_fanatic
The remains of Jesus will never be found since he was resurrected.What's that mean? Was there no body that eventually was shed or is Jesus still walking around in his 2000 year old body?
156
posted on
02/23/2007 8:18:17 AM PST
by
AmusedBystander
(Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
To: Ironfocus
Many people forget, that while Jesus was on the cross, Jesus said to John, John ? behold your mother, mother ? behold you son.. we can look at this and be puzzled, what did Jesus mean by this ?
I believe that Jesus loved John ( in the Bible, it says that John was the disciple that Jesus loved ) and Jesus looked at him as his own little brother, that is the only way I can reconcile what the Bible talks about were it says that " the disciple that Jesus loved " because, Jesus loved them all.
Could we say that he Loved = favored ?
I actually believe that Jesus wanted to comfort his mother and not leave her alone ( I know, she had other children ) when he goes back to the father.
I actually believe that Mary and her family actually adopted Apostle John into their own family.
Could they then ? have the names of John and James mixed up ?
To: AmusedBystander
Was there no body that eventually was shed or is Jesus still walking around in his 2000 year old body?
According to the Bible, both he and his body ascended into Heaven.
Besides, walking around in a 2000 year-old body would present some serious hygene issues, wouldn't you think ;)
158
posted on
02/23/2007 9:12:24 AM PST
by
reagan_fanatic
(Don't screw with the Kitties)
To: Rb ver. 2.0
Coffins weren't used in Jesus's day. This sounds like the sequel to the fraudulent 'brother of Jesus' bone box.
159
posted on
02/23/2007 9:17:42 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
To: AmusedBystander
You asked, "Was there no body that eventually was shed or is Jesus still walking around in his 2000 year old body?" The body was vacated for a day or two, then Jesus came back into His body and resurrected it. Christians will have a similar resurrection, a transformed body which will exist in a timeless state.
160
posted on
02/23/2007 9:28:43 AM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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