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The GOP's Giuliani problem
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | February 23, 2007 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 02/23/2007 9:58:50 AM PST by nosofar

We are told that Rudy Giuliani -- supposedly "America's mayor" for his calming speeches and commanding presence after the 9/11 attack on New York -- is that special Republican someone who can beat the nearly invincible Sen. Hillary Clinton.

I dread Hillary as much as the next guy and am not fooled by her carefully orchestrated "moderation" as a senator. Once in office, we can expect her to push hard for socialized health care and other policies that expand the size and power of government.

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1 posted on 02/23/2007 9:58:51 AM PST by nosofar
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To: nosofar

I would call it Giuliani's GOP problem.

Duncan Hunter for President.


2 posted on 02/23/2007 10:02:40 AM PST by rwa265
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To: nosofar

Cheney /Gingrich 08

Problem solved.


3 posted on 02/23/2007 10:05:42 AM PST by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: rwa265

I would call it the Dem problem...Rudy is going to win, and he's going to win in a landslide. Of course, being in power is always a problem for Republicans because for some reason, we don't think we deserve to have it.


4 posted on 02/23/2007 10:06:58 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: nosofar

Are we sure we can't get Fred Thompson to run?


5 posted on 02/23/2007 10:07:58 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Hillary Hugo Chavez wants to "take those profits" away from you, for the common good)
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To: nosofar
Giuliani has been given a free ride by all Republicans and conservatives. I hear about his socially liberal views, and I hear about his personal problems. But, I haven't heard or read anyone who brings up the most offensive thing of all about him. If it weren't for his cowardice, Hillary Clinton would not have been elected to the Senate!!! Don't you remember?!!! He had the election locked up. Jesus Christ Himself could not have beat him in that election. But he dropped out in the middle of the race giving Hillary a free pass into the Senate.

I know, he claimed to be limited by his health. But as soon as the election was over, he was as active and busy as he ever was before he dropped out. Someone got to Giuliani and out of cowardice, he gave us Senator Hillary Clinton. I wouldn't vote for him if he was Ronald Reagan reincarnated!!! Conservatives, like all American voters, have extremely short memories, and that's how we end up with idiots in office.

Billy Jack
billyjacksblog.com
6 posted on 02/23/2007 10:10:13 AM PST by Billy Jacks blog (billyjacksblog.com)
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To: Hildy

"(RUDY IN 2008)"

You have got to be kidding me?

Trol statement if I ever heard one.


7 posted on 02/23/2007 10:10:24 AM PST by mr_hammer (Pro-life, Pro-gun, Pro-military, Pro-borders, Limited Govn't will win in 08!)
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To: mr_hammer

Yea, I've been a troll since 1998. I'm just too fast for them to catch me.


8 posted on 02/23/2007 10:15:14 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Billy Jacks blog

"Limited by his health????" He had prostate cancer.


9 posted on 02/23/2007 10:17:53 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Hildy

November of `08 I'm going to vote late and wear a kilt.
And lie on my stomach.

Because if Rudy is winning, monkeys are going to be
flying out of my butt.


10 posted on 02/23/2007 10:18:18 AM PST by tumblindice (conservative site/liberal candidate: what's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Billy Jacks blog

I see you represent the calm - thoughtful types.... !!!


11 posted on 02/23/2007 10:19:23 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: nosofar
The Guliani problem for the GOP is legitimate. As part of the religious right, the mayor and I do not share a commonality relative to some social issues. However, this is a unique point in history. America has an enemy determined to kill us. Guliani has proven his ability to take on evil.

If Hillary becomes president America this will all but encourage Al Queda to get more aggressive.

I will vote for Rudy but encourage him to tap a social conservative as his V.P.
12 posted on 02/23/2007 10:20:33 AM PST by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: tumblindice

What next - "if Rudy wins - I'm moving to France?"

Get ready for Rudy.


13 posted on 02/23/2007 10:20:56 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Billy Jacks blog
Giuliani has been given a free ride by all Republicans and conservatives.

I was gonna be snarky and say "You're new here, aren't you?" until I realized you really are.

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

JoinRudy2008 * Virginia is for Rudy * The Ward View

14 posted on 02/23/2007 10:22:59 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (If you don't support their mission, you don't support the troops.)
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To: Son-Joshua

Now that's reasonable - nothing wrong with that idea at all.

What would happen if Rudy won the primaries and then asked Duncan Hunter, Newt, or some other "social conservative" to join him.

What are they going to say - "no"?


15 posted on 02/23/2007 10:23:02 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Billy Jacks blog
claimed to be limited by his health. But as soon as the election was over, he was as active and busy as he ever was before he dropped out. Someone got to Giuliani and out of cowardice, he gave us Senator Hillary Clinton

Quiet! So far, only you and I have figured this out and if it gets around, Rudy could be hurt.

16 posted on 02/23/2007 10:23:22 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Hillary knew how to hold'em; Knew how to fold'em; after Bill got bold with'em.)
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To: Son-Joshua
Guliani has proven his ability to take on evil.

Rudy has shown an ability to react to a bad situation, not the ability to take on evil.

17 posted on 02/23/2007 10:23:32 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: mr_hammer; Hildy
Duuuuuuuuddeee...did you really just call Hildy a troll? (correct spelling mine btw)

JoinRudy2008 * Virginia is for Rudy * The Ward View

18 posted on 02/23/2007 10:24:16 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (If you don't support their mission, you don't support the troops.)
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To: tumblindice; Hildy; HairOfTheDog
Because if Rudy is winning, monkeys are going to be flying out of my butt.

Take pictures!

JoinRudy2008 * Virginia is for Rudy * The Ward View

19 posted on 02/23/2007 10:25:20 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (If you don't support their mission, you don't support the troops.)
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To: Hildy

Rudy ia a Democrat. That is his party. Not the GOP!

1.) Life Issues.
a.) Supports Roe vs. Wade (Called it good Constitutional law).
b.) Supports Abortion on Demand.
c.) Supports Partial Birth abortion (Has recently given NARAL talking points as an attempted recant. It is clear he still supports that right).
d.) Disagrees with Catholic Church's position that Abortion is murder.
e.) Supports taxpayer funded abortions.
f.) Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research.
g.) Spouts-off Pro-Abortion talking points against abortion restrictions (Don't want women "put in jail").
h.) Opposes Parental Notification laws unless a judicial bypass is easily obtained (NARAL talking points which effectively nullify notification laws).
i.) Opposes Parental Consent laws.
j.) CELEBRATED anniversary of Roe vs. Wade.
k.) Celebrates Margaret Sanger as a hero.

2.) Gay Rights issues.
a.) Supports Homosexuality and Alternate Lifestyles as protected civil rights movements under the law.
b.) Opposes The Federal Marriage Amendment.
c.) Supports Gay Domestic Partnership/Civil Union laws.
d.) Opposes Defense of Marriage Act.
e.) Supports openly gay military.

3.) Immigration.
a.) Supports Amnesty for illegal immigrants (calls it "earned amnesty").
b.) Opposes border fence (prefers "electronic fence" - Pro-Amnesty talking point).
c.) Opposes tougher penalties for employers of illegal immigrants.
d.) Supports creating Amnesty cities; has openly defied immigration laws.

3.) First Amendment.
a.) Supports Campaign Finance Reform.
b.) Supports Hate Crimes Legislation.

4.) Second Amendment.
a.) Supports gun confiscation.
b.) Supports Assault Weapons ban.
c.) Supports frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers (filed one himself).
d.) Supports very strict gun registration and gun licensing.
e.) Links increased gun ownership to increased crime.
f.) Regularly uses tragedies to call for stricter gun control laws.
g.) Supports increase in FEDERAL gun control laws.
h.) Has no basic understanding of Second Amendment.

4.) Taxes
a.) Will not sign "No new taxes" pledge.
b.) Has openly called ruling out tax increases "pandering."
c.) Uses taxpayer monies to pay for Liberal Social programs, like abortion.

5.) Election Laws.
a.) Tried to thwart NY election laws to extend his tenure as Mayor.

6.) Executive Overreaching.
a.) Brought in and enforced smoking bans.
b.) Banned ferret ownership.
c.) Questionable appointments as Mayor.

7.) Judiciary.
a.) Believes Roe vs. Wade is good law.
b.) Believes Ginsberg is good Justice.
c.) Believes Second Amendment compels strict gun control.
d.) Believes Hate Crimes laws are consistent with First Amendment.
e.) Believes Campaign Finance Reform is consistent with First Amendment.
f.) Has very Liberal record of judicial appointments.
g.) Promises "strict constructionist" judges "like himself:" Pro-Roe, Anti-First and Second Amendment "strict constructionists."

8.) Environmental Issues.
a.) Supports "Progressive" environmental laws.
b.) Supports idea of human-caused Global Warming.

9.) Prior Endorsements.
a.) Endorsed Mario Cuomo. b.) Endorsed by Liberal Party of NY.
c.) Refused Conservative Party compromise on Partial Birth Abortion required to get endorsement.
d.) Endorsed by NARAL.
e.) Endorsed Clinton's policies as similar to his own.


20 posted on 02/23/2007 10:28:49 AM PST by mr_hammer (Pro-life, Pro-gun, Pro-military, Pro-borders, Limited Govn't will win in 08!)
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