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Navistar halts engines for Ford (Powerstroke Diesel)
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Posted on 02/27/2007 2:27:24 PM PST by BladeLWS

CHICAGO (Reuters) -- Navistar International Corp. said Monday that it had stopped shipping diesel engines to Ford Motor Co. that power the automaker's key F-Series Super Duty pickup trucks because of a contract dispute.

Navistar builds the 6.4-liter Ford Power Stroke diesel engine for the 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty, a key launch this year for the automaker in its move to rebound from billions of dollars of losses in recent years.

The truck and engine maker said Ford had stopped honoring terms of its agreement with Navistar and it would halt production for the automaker immediately.

"We shipped the last engines to Ford last week," Navistar spokesman Roy Wiley said.

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KEYWORDS: diesel
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Looks like Ford is between a rock and a hard place right now. Their big diesel cash cow just got a punch in the gut. The last engines were delivered last week, and the factory makes 800 engines daily.

Looks like the new 6.4L twin turbo for 2008 isn't going to happen for the time being...

1 posted on 02/27/2007 2:27:26 PM PST by BladeLWS
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To: BladeLWS

Ouch.


2 posted on 02/27/2007 2:38:54 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: BladeLWS
F.O.R.D.

Fix Or Repair Daily!

3 posted on 02/27/2007 2:41:42 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: BladeLWS

If it's a cash cow for Ford, then I wonder why would they stop honoring the agreement?


4 posted on 02/27/2007 2:43:48 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Don't screw with the Kitties)
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To: BladeLWS

Interesting in that currently Ford is advertising the heck out of the F-450 Superduty.

I like the tailgate step they came up with.

Right now the Chevy Silverado is cleaning Ford's clock. I really like the Dana locker they came up with for the Chevy.


5 posted on 02/27/2007 2:44:13 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Good question. The Powerstroke Superduty is the most popular heavy pickup in the country. And they're promoting the hell out of the F-450 for 2008 with a new 6.4L twin turbo.


6 posted on 02/27/2007 2:47:50 PM PST by BladeLWS
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To: BladeLWS
The best thing Ford could do is replace the powerchoke with a Cummins turbo Diesel,with an Allison transmission. I would buy it before noon tomorrow.

This engine is rated with 350 horsepower at just 3013 rpm. The 6.7-liter Turbo Diesel achieves a peak torque of 650 lb-ft at 1500 rpm for the automatic transmission configuration and maintains that peak torque all the way to 2800 rpm (a "best in class" capability for a heavy-duty diesel pickup) and a full 610 lb-ft peak torque for the manual transmission.
7 posted on 02/27/2007 2:48:03 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: TexasCajun
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8 posted on 02/27/2007 2:51:40 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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9 posted on 02/27/2007 3:02:26 PM PST by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: BladeLWS

The "POWER-JOKE" diesel is the laughing stock of the industry.

Part of the problem lies in the new emissions standards for 2007. The engines have lost all fuel economy, and are barely getting Big Block era results. (8-10 miles per gallon).

The problem is not the engines, but poor Ford engineering. The engines also have Oil leak problems, poor performance and several other discrepancies.


10 posted on 02/27/2007 3:07:49 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
The Duramax equals those results. They are pretty much identical. A properly chipped Duramax develops over 500 Hp.

The engines also hold up over hundreds of thousands of miles. Cummins is comparable but not superior.
11 posted on 02/27/2007 3:11:26 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: BladeLWS
It's junk. gets about 8-10 miles per gallon. They missed the new emissions standards by a mile. The Transmissions are also suspect.
12 posted on 02/27/2007 3:14:06 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: GunnyHartman

If you want to know what Pontiac stands for, freepmail me.


13 posted on 02/27/2007 3:19:20 PM PST by gcruse (Having half-white Obama play the race card is like Michael Jackson playing the gender card.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The difference is that the Cummins is a stepped-down medium-duty engine, whereas the Duramax and PowerStroke are light-duty engines specifically designed for pickup trucks. The duty cycle is longer for the Cummins (though probably only by 100,000-150,000 miles). A properly-chipped Cummins can clear 1000 horsepower, and still be driveable.


14 posted on 02/27/2007 3:22:33 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Yo-Yo
Right now the Chevy Silverado is cleaning Ford's clock.

And your source is????

15 posted on 02/27/2007 3:25:51 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

In another article, it said that Navistar did not re-imburse Ford for some recall charges or other problems that occurred in previous diesel engines and both sides are disputing who owes what for the recalls. So Navistar decided to stop shipping engines.


16 posted on 02/27/2007 3:28:18 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: gcruse
If you want to know what Pontiac stands for, freepmail me.

Careful, you don't want the Rev. Jackson on your case.

17 posted on 02/27/2007 3:31:32 PM PST by AFreeBird (This space for rent. Inquire within)
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To: AFreeBird

heh.


18 posted on 02/27/2007 3:32:09 PM PST by gcruse (Having half-white Obama play the race card is like Michael Jackson playing the gender card.)
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To: Little Pig
The difference is that the Cummins is a stepped-down medium-duty engine

Where in the world did you dream that stuff up from. The international motor built for ford was in greyhound and trail-ways buses for years before they were put in a pick up truck. And if you think you can produce more horse power with a six cylinder than a v8 you need to call john force up and ask for a job.

19 posted on 02/27/2007 3:32:52 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: org.whodat; Little Pig
The international motor built for ford was in greyhound and trail-ways buses for years before they were put in a pick up truck.

You've never looked in the engine bay of a Greyhound bus, have you?

20 posted on 02/27/2007 3:42:28 PM PST by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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