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To: Yossarian; Kevmo
This information has been posted before, along with the explanation of how the New York State election system works. A candidate can be (and often is) listed on multiple lines. For example, a candidate might be listed on the Conservative, Right-to-Life, and Law-and-Order lines at the same time he's on the Republican (or Dem, or Liberal, or Socialist, or whatever) line.

Mr. Giuliani was simply stating that he'd love to have no opponent, not that he'd rather be on that side instead of on the Republican side.

I am not planning to vote for Mr. Giuliani, but to use this against him just demonstrates ignorance of the New York State voting system. It's actually a great system to have, because in many cases, a conservative can have his vote listed as being "Conservative" and not just "Republican" while still voting for the same candidate.

As for it being in "breaking news"...well...only if FR is looking to be behind the times, as this clip is very old news. :-)

330 posted on 04/25/2007 11:48:43 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
Mr. Giuliani was simply stating that he'd love to have no opponent, not that he'd rather be on that side instead of on the Republican side. I am not planning to vote for Mr. Giuliani, but to use this against him just demonstrates ignorance of the New York State voting system.

I know well how the NYS system works. And Giuliani ran on the "Liberal line" in 1993 & 1997 - not rhetorically, not conceptually, but he went and got approval to run on the line from the New York Liberal Party and its leader, Raymond B. Harding in particular.

So go stick that in your "I'm not voting for Rudy but you're ignorant" pipe and smoke it!

333 posted on 04/25/2007 11:59:12 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Gondring; fieldmarshaldj

See my post #326. The truth is that Rudy wanted to be cross-endorsed by the Democrats but showed absolutely no interest of being cross-endorsed by the Conservative Party. Rudy was re-elected as mayor as the nominee of the Republican Party and the Liberal Party (which for years was controlled by overt socialists, and only endorsed the most liberal of Republicans, such as John Lindsey, Jacob Javitz and Sherry Boehlert), but not of the Conservative Party.


335 posted on 04/25/2007 12:03:16 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gondring

If that information had been posted before, why wasn’t it on this thread? Because the rudybots stayed away from it and generated crickets rather than defend their candidate.

As for it being in “breaking news”...well...only if FR is looking to be behind the times, as this clip is very old news. :-)
***Yes, this clip is older now, but it never got the proper exposure it should have gotten, so I’m happy to see it going through a Phoenix stage. If the clip is so old news, why not show us where the rudybots have commented on all those video snips?

Flashbunny was kind enough to write up a transcript of the video and put it on his home page, so I started posting the transcript alongside the video link for those people who have slow connections and might even be afraid of a virus download from Youtube or whatnot.

As I continued to post the transcript, a few people posted to thank me for doing so because the information has been so enlightening.

Now we see that there is this online petition spreading around the internet, and this one example has had 100 social conservatives from Iowa sign it. And yes, parts of it do appear to be a cut & paste from the video transcript that flashbunny posted and that I have been using. So at this very moment, it appears that HUNDREDS OF SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES ARE SIGNING PETITIONS that contain cut&paste material from the stuff I’ve been posting. All because the rudybots didn’t want to respond with substance.

More than 100 Iowans sign Online Peition:
http://theconservativedeclaration.wordpress.com/

Conservatives:

Rudy Giuliani is an unacceptable Republican nominee for President of the United States. He is pro-abortion, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-registration of handguns, and pro-homosexual rights. He is the most liberal Republican candidate for President in our nation’s history.

Conservatives should leave no doubt that we will not support his candidacy under any circumstances. Therefore, we have created the Conservative Declaration of Independence to publicly state our position regarding the Republican Party’s consideration of a liberal as our Presidential nominee.

Please email theconservativedeclaration@hotmail.com to add your name to the list of signers.

Article II Supporting Evidence

Rudolf Giuliani explaining his liberal views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Rudolf Giuliani explaining his position on abortion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDfwXIYUX0

Rudolf Giuliani dressed as female:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

Interview with gay couple Rudolf Giuliani lived with when Sept 11th occurred:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2001_Sept_11/ai_78265968

Ban on Partial Birth Abortions:

“No, I do not support that (a ban on partial birth abortion), and I do not see my position on that changing.”

Abortion:

“There must be public funding of abortion for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decision about abortion because she lacks resources. I have also stated that I disagree with President’s Bush’s veto for public funding of abortion.”

Immigration:

“There is not a Mayor or Public Official in this country who is more pro-immigrant than I am.”

Gun Control:

“I am in favor of gun control”

“You know I am in favor of that (registration of all hand guns)”

Gay Rights:

”I support domestic partnership legislation and I signed it.”

Free Speech:

“I am a big supporter of McCain-Feingold and have been for a long time”

Party Loyalty:

”Frankly, I would like to run on all the lines. The liberal line, the conservative line, I would like to run on the Democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”


359 posted on 04/25/2007 12:30:17 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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