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I’m sure the dems would be happy with a Clinton/Giuliani ticket on the democrat line. It appears rudy would be happy with that as well. So let’s just allow them to do that.

But that’s not what you really mean, isn’t it? You mean, what IF rudy gets the nomination. I’ll answer your false dilemma if you answer mine.

Hildebeast is eminently beatable, this nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure and impolite on this socon forum. For example, this article:
“Long Shot GOP Candidate Brownback Just Five Points Behind Clinton”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798666/posts
We know that it simply means it’s very early in the race and that even no-name candidates are only 5 points behind Clinton. So the rudybots should stop supporting a social liberal on this social conservative forum and pick a real winner, rather than a ridiculous loser liberal like rudy.

The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=171
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=172

Rudy splits the base.

I have noticed time and again that rudy supporters rudely send up the false dilemma of “who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy”. This particularly impolite at this early of a point in the primary cycle. Since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, especially this early in the race.

Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, I would expect them to answer this false dilemma.

My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.

Rudy followers’ contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.

Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers’ hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.

Duncan Hunter’s campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/

That wasn't the dilemma I tried to present at all. Don't jump to any conclusions. In fact I completely agree that Hillary is very beatable. I think any candidate that doesn't split the Republican base should beat her like a drum.

Lets say Guli starts getting hammered from the conservative base as the liberal he is. Let;s go on to say further that he either loses in the primaries OR drops out before the primaries complete. He goes into negotiations with the wicked witch of the northeast and (after some guarantees about state parks and suicides) agrees to be her VP. All of a sudden you have a losing ticket becoming dangerous. I have long suspected a Clinton/Obama ticket as an extension of the leftist delusion we have been seeing but now I worry about a Clinton/Guli or a Clinton/"someone else billable as moderate".

I think Guli has to be crushed quickly as a candidate because he is more dangerous then the people honest enough to actually call themselves democrats.