even though in the Bible it says 'spare the rod, spoil the child,' I still feel spanking your children is not an appropriate measure, there's other means you can take.
In other words, the Bible is wrong? Well, that's your opinion.
1 posted on
03/02/2007 8:00:16 AM PST by
Sopater
To: Sopater
sometimes you just have to get their attention.
2 posted on
03/02/2007 8:02:49 AM PST by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Sopater
The bible also says that we must do so in love, and when the "spanking" goes beyond a point then it is no longer protected under the First Amendment. P.S. if anyone is going to challenge me on this kindly cite a legal precedent.
4 posted on
03/02/2007 8:13:18 AM PST by
street_lawyer
(Conservative Defender of the Faith)
To: Sopater
Bible has some other choice pieces of advice that are not what I called enlightened either.
What does it teach a child that their parent needs to use a hard object to beat them? Physical violence of such nature against children are the mark of a weak person.
5 posted on
03/02/2007 8:14:33 AM PST by
misterrob
(Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
To: Sopater
welts and bruising on the buttocks,
That is going too far.
To: Sopater
Children have become so much more well behaved and respectful since spanking went out of favor. /s
To: Sopater
Good grief, I had the "Board of Education" applied to my backside more than once IN SCHOOL, let alone at home. And that was a PUBLIC school.
22 posted on
03/02/2007 8:33:10 AM PST by
irishtenor
(Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
To: Sopater
I'd like to know what the "incident" was that got him 10 paddles. Maybe he really screwed the pooch, nevertheless the 17 year old kid is going to find out just how bad he messed up by asking the government into his life.
28 posted on
03/02/2007 8:38:18 AM PST by
rednesss
To: Sopater
So the older son called the police on the father beating the younger son? Whatever the truth here, sounds like this family has real problems.
"An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. "
"He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?)"
29 posted on
03/02/2007 8:38:42 AM PST by
I still care
("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
To: Sopater
16" paddle.
10 whacks on butt, legs and arms.
"extreme" marks.
Older brother called it in.
Believe me, I have 5 kids ALL of whom will tell you we spank in our house and spank hard. However, it sounds like the good Pastor went over the line with this one. As someone who had boards and belts used on him, I'm a big believer in NOT using weapons on your kids. The discipline should be felt by the receiver and the giver. If done correctly the spankings should have stopped long before 13. My guess is there is more to this story and it won't be pretty.
30 posted on
03/02/2007 8:39:40 AM PST by
mad puppy
(That was one rough Monday)
To: Sopater
The bible is not wrong, but the point of discipline is correction, not abuse. Any spanking that leaves bruises or welts is abuse.
To: Sopater
I got plenty of spankings as a child and not a few "Swats" from teachers (Some of whom had rather elaborate woodworking projects for paddles)up until high school. But I never had welts or bruises because of them. This pastor may have gone a little overboard.
Just my opinion.
62 posted on
03/02/2007 12:17:32 PM PST by
Chuckster
(Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
To: Sopater
Police say they found "extreme" red marks, welts and bruising on the buttocks, thighs and arm of Fink's 13-year-old son on Monday.
Don't believe that is what the Bible had in mind. I know for sure God did not want us abusing our children. I swat here and there is fine, but brusing???? Welts????? Not so much!!!!
To: Sopater
In other words, the Bible is wrong? Well, that's your opinion.
So any amount and severity in terms of beating your child is alright since the Bible says 'spare the rod, spoil the child?'
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