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Apocalypse soon?
Manila Standard ^ | March 2007 | By Antonio C. Abaya

Posted on 03/03/2007 5:39:01 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

I hear that the Philipines has a growing muslim population. This sounds like someone trying to stir up anti-christian hate.


61 posted on 03/03/2007 11:30:12 AM PST by virgil
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To: jetson
Yep, nothing like piercings to make a statement about your lifestyle.

(Looks like she's eating a blueberry pie, all at once... Gives new meaning to "Shut your Pie Hole")
62 posted on 03/03/2007 11:55:24 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (sorry to get off subject..)
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To: Fresh Wind
"The calendar on my wall has no dates on it after Dec. 31 2007. The end is coming sooner than you might think. "

Dude, like that cant be right....My Mayan calender has glyphs all the way to 2012!>)

(Its a thread about the end of the world. Someone has to bring up the Mayan calender...)
63 posted on 03/03/2007 12:03:33 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Paging Apocalypto!)
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To: Quix
Thanks. Will get it for next time....
64 posted on 03/03/2007 1:27:35 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I think its time you woke up.

1.By the Administration that has spent more on the Border Patrol then any Administration in history?



What good is spending money on Border patrol if you arrestthem for doing their duty.

2.That has done more to upgrade the technology of the Border Patrol then any other Administration?


This upgraded technology you speak of cant be that great as people continue pouring over the border non-stop.

3.An Administration that has dispatched the National Guard to back up the Border Patrol.


And that National Guard was run out of their own encampment by Mexican Army acting as bodyguards for drug dealers.

4.By the Republicans that gave you $1.2 billion for 700 miles of border fencing?



How much of that fencing has been actually built.?

I believe there is a know-nothing here, but it isnt me.
Real world politics isnt locking up Border Patrol agents because the President of Mexico demands it.Real World politics isnt having Mexicans in this country taking over Post Offices and flying Mexican flags from them.
Real world politics isnt allowing Mexican truckers to drive junk into this country with no insurance and no inspections of their equipment.

That may be YOUR real world. It isnt mine,.



65 posted on 03/03/2007 1:41:26 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: sgtbono2002
I see a "don't bother me with the facts, I want to be pissed off" Conservative. Reagan had words for your sort of "Conservative".

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything. I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.' If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

66 posted on 03/03/2007 1:53:04 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: NYer

[That is because Christian Fundamentalists believe that the state of Israel is a creation of God]

Uh, no.

I believe People of Israel are a creation of God.

The State of Israel, however, is a creation of humans.

But then, I'm an LCMS Lutheran and not a Fundamentalist...


67 posted on 03/03/2007 5:32:36 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: NYer

[That is because Christian Fundamentalists believe that the state of Israel is a creation of God]

Uh, no.

I believe People of Israel are a creation of God.

The State of Israel, however, is a creation of humans.

But then, I'm an LCMS Lutheran and not a Fundamentalist...


68 posted on 03/03/2007 5:32:42 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: Pyro7480; AdmSmith; Aquinasfan; Siobhan; Maeve; SJackson; Dark Skies; JohnHuang2; HAL9000; ...
Sigh, this author gets so close, but like so many others, misses the mark regarding Islam by underestimating the influence of Muslim End-Time believers.

On the other hand, there is a sub-sect in Shia Islam that has a similar apocalyptic vision....

As I've said before, it's not just the Shias. The Sunnis and every Muslim denomination also believe in the Signs of Qiyamah and the coming of the Mahdi. The only difference is that the Shia believe he will be the returning Imam Hussein (the author has it wrong -- the Shia believe he never died, he just went into hiding for 1100+ years) while all the other denominations believe the Mahdi will be a great Muslim born to that generation.

A Malaysian fundamentalist sect, the al-Arqham, ... taught its hundreds of thousands of believers that a Great Leader will soon emerge in Uzbekistan to lead the Muslims of the world in a Final Battle with the infidels ....

Again, all Muslims believe that the Mahdi will come some day, and the Hadith identifies that region ("Quraysh") as where he leads his march to world domination.

BTW, "infidels" means all non-Muslims, not just Christians. Just look at the recent attacks on Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheist Communists, etc.

For a while, Al Arqham watchers were convinced that this was none other than Osama bin Laden ....

Millions of Muslims had their eyes on OBL right after 9/11, and he is still very high on the list of possible Mahdis. He is also high on the list of possible precursors to the Mahdi (as is Ahmadinejad).

These are very powerful beliefs, and should not be joked about flippantly as the author does. If an imam can convince his audience that there is No Future, it is easier to convince him to put on a dynamite belt.

Let me also bemoan that the author passed up a perfectly good opportunity to educate his readership as to how Western Civilization is identified either allegorically as the Dajjal, or literally as the power base of the Dajjal.

See my FR Homepage for more information.

69 posted on 03/03/2007 7:50:02 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for an essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: Dajjal

I could be wrong, but I think Islam is the false religion of the anti-Christ.

Convert/submit or die!


70 posted on 03/03/2007 7:52:49 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: airborne
I think the same. I have studied the Bible for years and continue to read it every day. It seems to me that the very Antichrist we fear is the same one certain Muslim sects are eagerly expecting. I just cannot see how the Antichrist is Rome. Jesus said we would know false prophets by their fruits. At least at this point, the fruits of Islam seem more evil than the fruits of Rome.

Of course, I may well be wrong. The Biblical references to the end times in Daniel, Matthew, Thessalonians and Revelation are sketchy and pose great challenges to the wisest theologians.
71 posted on 03/03/2007 8:11:57 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: airborne
I could be wrong, but I think Islam is the false religion of the anti-Christ.
Convert/submit or die!

All I can say is that I agree Islam is a false religion, and has been doing the "convert/submit or die" schtik since the Seventh Century. Whether it's the religion of the guy in the Book of Revelations, I don't know.

In the 1950s, End-Time literature tended to identify the "religion" of the Anti-Christ as atheistic Communism. In the 1980s, the End-Time literature tended to identify the Anti-Christ's religion as New Age Syncretism and Paganism. Now Post-9/11 End-Time literature tends to identify his religion as Islam.

Since I do not believe these are the End Times no matter what prophecies are invoked, for me the issue is moot.

What does concern me is that a religion with over a billion members has prelates who are using their End-Time dogmas to incite violence against myself, my countrymen, and our allies.

BTW, in the earlier post I should have added that the Muslim extremists also apply the term "infidel" to any perceived lukewarm Muslims.

72 posted on 03/03/2007 8:14:12 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for an essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: NYer

Another clueless person who thinks they understand how evangelicals believe.


73 posted on 03/03/2007 8:17:56 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Dajjal; keats5
What I do know is this - Jesus is my Saviour!

And if it's a choice between betraying Him or living, I pray I have the strength to resist Satan.

74 posted on 03/03/2007 8:20:18 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: airborne

Amen! (And good night.)


75 posted on 03/03/2007 8:27:19 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: NYer
...a Great Leader will soon emerge in Uzbekistan to lead the Muslims of the world in a Final Battle with the infidels, meaning the Christians. And he will be easily identified by true believers because he will be wearing a blue turban.

What if one or more impostors also wear blue turbans to confuse the faithful? How will we know who to bet on?

76 posted on 03/03/2007 8:31:51 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining (Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
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To: airborne
What I do know is this - Jesus is my Saviour!

Amen!

77 posted on 03/03/2007 8:33:30 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for an essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: NYer

78 posted on 03/03/2007 8:39:16 PM PST by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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To: NYer
This guy has not a clue about bible believing Christians and why we do or support anything.

God will do what He will do and when He wants.

Christians support Israel because it is the right thing to do and we know they are the apple of God's eye. May God bless Israel any forever [and that speaks of the people -ethic Israel not the land].

79 posted on 03/03/2007 8:39:51 PM PST by free_life
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To: Quix; doug from upland

I really believe that taking Zinc is one thing that can be very helpful.


80 posted on 03/03/2007 9:19:35 PM PST by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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