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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
1 posted on 03/04/2007 5:03:19 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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Please check out Phsstpok’s EXCELLENT Sunday Talk Show PRE-Thread. It’s a great way to hear analysis on why the DBM picks the guests, what they’ll probably discuss, and other pertinent facts. Also, check out his blog!

2 posted on 03/04/2007 5:04:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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On TCM:

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Flower Drum Song

The smash Rodgers-Hammerstein Broadway hit was only adequately adapted in this overblown production; perhaps the cloying sweetness of the story played better within the confines of a stage.


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Too early for politics...


5 posted on 03/04/2007 5:07:00 AM PST by dakine
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To: Alas Babylon!
Scooter vs. Liebermann is intriguing.
6 posted on 03/04/2007 5:09:00 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, everyone, and thanks for the thread. Congratulations to last weeks winners too. Great stuff to read, as usual.


31 posted on 03/04/2007 6:04:47 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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...soliciting FReeper comments...
Murtha is awful red-faced. If he got so excited that he stroked out I don't think anyone would care.
43 posted on 03/04/2007 6:18:20 AM PST by philman_36
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49 posted on 03/04/2007 6:21:30 AM PST by Gritty (There are two political parties in America: the Republicans and the mainstream media - Jed Babbin)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Murtha must've been reading a playbook before the show 'cause he kept up the "The British Are Running" bit.


51 posted on 03/04/2007 6:23:17 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Alas Babylon!
Why even bother watching television news shows? I have not seen one all the way through to the end for over five years. I caught five minutes of Fox News a few months ago. It was a total waste of time. Why corrode your brain with MSM crapola? I do not even watch commercial television anymore. Local stations here have turned to infomercials for revenue. They are all the same: "Get rich quick with real estate, flip this house, get rich trading on line with this program and you need to know is 'follow the red arrows and green arrows." I watch lots of DVDs but they are starting to appear the same because they mostly follow a plotting formula. Far better to read good books and listen to fine music.
110 posted on 03/04/2007 7:10:15 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Alas Babylon!
One possible scenario....
once proved an iranian attack......
iran's expecting to receive the same pass the saudis received?
iran will be running to the UN asking why weren't we (iran)
given a pass as the saudis were on 911?
UN will side with the monster (under the bed)?
NO, it would never happen?
Expect full cooperation from the two groups, or was that three groups counting the UN?
Just fooling......but 1 of many different possibilities.
It truly is the fog of war, without war having been declared this time.
and I'm still hearing the same info....
an army has been slipped in right under our noses and we are behaving as if we are powerless to stop the invasion,
move along....nothing to see here.....anyone ever heard of the big picture?
Watch out for those folks who quote say, "you don't understand the big picture", those persons can't understand the 'little picture,' if those persons keep looking for the 'big picture'.

The little picture is the big picture in microcosmic form.
wow, is that word correct....heck I better move on here, I might actually type a coherent message.....
I know....and y'all are correct....typing a coherent message would be impossible.
How dare any of us learn something, anything, or figure out the 'little picture'

once proved an iranian (substitute any country necessay)attack......
iran expects to receive the same pass the saudis received?
iran will be running to the UN asking why aren't we (iran)
given a pass as the saudis were on 911?
UN will side with the monster (under the bed)?
NO, it would never happen?
Expect full cooperation from the two groups, or was that three groups counting the UN?
Just fooling......but 1 of many different possibilities.
It truly is the fog of war, without war having been declared this time.
and I'm still hearing the same info....
an army has been slipped in right under our noses and we are behaving as if we are powerless to stop the invasion,
move along....nothing to see here.....

When our nation actually hears the message 'we are at war', how many American lives will have been lost?
May there never be an attack of this type, for would mean full scale nuclear action!
or full scale nuclear annihilation depending on whose side those people in D.C. are on......
little picture - big picture.....both pictures only one of many possibilities....

May the military always remain in control of the nukes, in our nation, D.C. would rather force
our nation to and into the ground, as for me and my house, I'll trust not the politicians, but will
instead trust the nation's military. My politicians have only one responsibility and that is to fund
the military in order that the military and the military families are provided for, congress has no other
function, if truly as you say congress, "We are at War". Okay congress, if we are at war, supply our military
with the most uptodate equipment, protect and support our military families, and get out of the way
in order that our military may do what has to be done to serve, protect, and defend America.
Otherwise dear congressperson, you serve only to help the enemy! Our military volunteered to serve, protect, and defend! America's best and brightest are defending our nation......does that mean anything to you congresspeople?

I'll cease to bore you now, I hope none read the full text, tweren't worth it......except for the part about funding our military.....congress don't make the people come up there.....
congress is still yelling something from the balcony..... What's that phrase congress is yelling
yes, you guessed it......Go To ____

~FReepers, please forgive my rant...

127 posted on 03/04/2007 7:21:53 AM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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Did Prissy Wallace ask Rangel to explain why the Stock Market had a dip this week? Me methinks me ears deceived me.
133 posted on 03/04/2007 7:28:49 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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Lindsey .......doing a GREAT job today !!

Educating, Murtha Face Russert !!

Good to know Lindsey finally got some religion !!


151 posted on 03/04/2007 7:37:59 AM PST by W-Girl
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Not much excitement today. For a change the news from Iraq is not about American casualties or Iraqi civilian deaths.

I watched Meet the Press. Murtha was his usual self. He actually almost completely fulfills the paradigm on how to become a demagogue.

First, he is a defeatist on the war but he realizes this is too small a group to prevail.

Second, knowing the above he then launches into a series of poorly sourced comments designed to discourage everyone. His usual mantra is this is "a civil war...we can't win it militarily..." and so forth. He repeats the same points over and over again like a good propagandist does in order to garner more support.

Third, he does not come out with a full frontal assault of name calling and denigration like most people intending to become dominant, totalitarian leaders. He does, however, indicate the usual moral superiority of being antiwar. In this he permits his followers to demean those who believe otherwise and also gives his antiwar followers a reason or purpose for living. By having "antiwar" as a purpose they achieve two things--discharge a complex issue with a syrupy emotion and achieve instant moral superiority over any opponent.

Murtha has definite totalitarian ambitions but he breaks down under scrutiny.

Lindsey Graham broke Murtha's arguments down. Lindsey was passionate, a master of the facts and capable of forcing "what happens if we withdraw" as the principal defect of Murtha's position. An extraordinary job! I take back some of my negative assumptions about Graham.

Graham did have trouble with "polls." This is much easier to refute than it seems. Mark Twain had it right when he said "...what most people call thinking is emoting...the aggregation of emoting is public opinion...it answers everything...some act as if it were the voice of God..."

Polls, in general, are tough to explain and understand. See a discussion of the foibles and problems of polls: HERE. Polling on "war" is fraught with the problem of who is in favor of war? The easiest, and most noble sentiment, is to be antiwar no matter what. That is what the polls on this issue are concluding and little more.

217 posted on 03/04/2007 8:13:00 AM PST by shrinkermd
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Mark Kilmer has posted his review of this Sunday's shows over at RedState.COM.  Here's the intro

Posted at 1:40pm on Mar. 4, 2007

The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - The Review

Murtha was a gas, Schumer a hoot, and Tancredo was... ?

By Mark Kilmer

Sunday, March 4, 2007

This morning on NBC's Meet the Press, it began as the Okinawa Jack Show, an entertaining look into a cloudy mind. Congressman Murtha blamed the problems at the Walter Reed Medical Center on the funding of the Iraq war, and he complained that because so many were deployed in Iraq, we would not be prepared if the People's Republic of China opted to invade.

Senator Lindsey Graham was up next, and he urged support for "General Petraeus's plan," conceding that it might not work but was our only chance. He dismissed the Dems' latest round of measures and resolutions as "political theater."

On ABC's This Week, Senator Chuck Schumer became unhinged by charges that the Democrats couldn't do anything right with regard to Iraq. He ranted about electoral mandates, ratcheting up pressure on morons, and an Iraqi government which couldn't execute Saddam Hussein properly. Senator Trent Lott calmly countered that the Democrats against taking action in Iraq in 1991, then they were for it in 2002, and now they opposed it again in 2007.

On FOX News Sunday, Diane Feinstein told host Chris Wallace that either the Pakistanis had to go into their hinterlands and break up the al Qaeda party or where should invade the area ourselves. Later on FNS, Chuck Rangel said that we were living in two Americas.

On CBS' FTN, Carl Levin wigged out on the Administration over Walter Reed. Lieberman said that nothing Levin or Murtha are proposing regarding the war has a chance of passing so they should quit wasting the country's time.

On CNN's LE, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad said that he will be the U.S. representative at the upcoming Iraq talks which will include Iran. He said that they the talks were multilateral but that he is prepared should Iran want to speak bilaterally.

Also on LE, Senator Chris Dodd declared that this is a civil war and that the President is lying when he claims that the terrorists will attack us here if we flee Iraq. We are refereeing a civil war, he said, and Blitzer played a clip of Dingy Harry asserting the same thing. Senator Jon Kyl pointed out that al Qaeda had initiated the Sectarian violence by bombing the Golden Mosque in Samarra.

Congressman Tom Tancredo was Wolf's next guest on LE, where he said that we've lost the war in Iraq and we should and would get out of there soon.

Read More for the complete, show-by-show review: Read More »

Always a good read and he covers the shows when we seem to miss them, such as ABC This Week this week.

718 posted on 03/04/2007 2:55:09 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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Schumer should be banned from Sunday morning talk shows. No wonder I don't watch them.....well, I watch Fox News Sunday... Feinswinesucks........


799 posted on 03/04/2007 5:45:15 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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bump to self for tomrrow mornin' readin '


815 posted on 03/04/2007 6:50:29 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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