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Experts Want New Definition of Torture
AP via SFGate ^ | 3/5/7

Posted on 03/05/2007 1:55:03 PM PST by SmithL

Prisoners who endure poor or degrading treatment suffer much of the same long-term psychological distress as do captives who are tortured, suggests a study published Monday.

The study was based on interviews with victims of ill treatment and torture while imprisoned in the former Yugoslavia, and experts said the findings underscored the need for a broader definition of torture.

"What is the basis for the distinction between torture and other cruel and degrading treatment? Science should inform this debate," the study's lead author, Metin Basoglu of the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College in London, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. The study was published in the Archives of General Psychiatry.

Steve H. Miles of the University of Minnesota's Center for Bioethics, who was not involved in the study, said the findings "show that the severity of long-lasting adverse mental effects is unrelated to whether the torture or degrading treatment is physical or psychological."

"The wrongness of these inflicted harms is compounded by the fact that most abused prisoners, including those in the present war on terror, are innocent or ignorant of terrorist activities," Miles said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: terrorsupporters
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The bottom line is Miles and his ilk are supporters of terrorists.
1 posted on 03/05/2007 1:55:07 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Here's my definition: Having to endure a Barbra Streisand concert.


2 posted on 03/05/2007 1:56:20 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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"The bottom line is Miles and his ilk are supporters of terrorists."

And were probably called unflattering names as children.

3 posted on 03/05/2007 1:56:50 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: SmithL

"Experts" usually aren't.


4 posted on 03/05/2007 1:57:29 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SmithL
tor·ture
noun, verb, -tured, -tur·ing
–noun 1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2. a method of inflicting such pain.
3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5. a cause of severe pain or anguish.

–verb (used with object)
6. to subject to torture.
7. to afflict with severe pain of body or mind: My back is torturing me.
8. to force or extort by torture: We'll torture the truth from his lips!
9. to twist, force, or bring into some unnatural position or form: trees tortured by storms.
10. to distort or pervert (language, meaning, etc.).

To put Helen Thomas' panties upon a man's head.

5 posted on 03/05/2007 2:01:37 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: SmithL

IBTHTP


6 posted on 03/05/2007 2:02:45 PM PST by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: SmithL

So crappy food and cramped spaces are the same as pulling someone's fingernails and toenails out by the roots or sliding pins underneath their tongue?


7 posted on 03/05/2007 2:06:40 PM PST by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: Quick or Dead

"They made me listen to Singing Commercials." - Old Man Goodridge from The Three Stooges.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 2:08:14 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Quick or Dead

You say that like someone who has never gone to sea on a submarine.
; )


9 posted on 03/05/2007 2:08:25 PM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SmithL

How about locked up nude with Helen Thomas?


10 posted on 03/05/2007 2:11:55 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: SmithL
I want a new definition of "experts"!
11 posted on 03/05/2007 2:13:27 PM PST by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: SmithL

Be sure and include watching endless coverage of Anna Nicole Smith's body and the circling vultures.


12 posted on 03/05/2007 2:13:28 PM PST by Sender (Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.)
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To: SmithL

Any time I have to kill time in an airport bar I'm forced to listen to CNN. Now that's torture in my book.


14 posted on 03/05/2007 2:15:44 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"How about locked up nude with Helen Thomas?"


15 posted on 03/05/2007 2:17:54 PM PST by traditional1
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To: SmithL
One day, the liberal definition of torture will be so warped as to include the denial of any of the contemporary socialist entitlements (health-care, dental care, breast implants, botox injections, sex changes, welfare payments, Rx drug benefits, etc etc etc), while also defining as torture things like solitary confinement, sound deprivation, the provision of unfamiliar or unwanted foodstuffs, denial of conjugal visits, denial of entertainment options, denial of state-provided narcotics and booze, etc.

That is the road one goes down as soon as torture is downgraded to include "psychological stress". Good ol' incrementalism. Gotta keep America handicapped on all fronts.

16 posted on 03/05/2007 2:22:02 PM PST by M203M4 (What others can wound, only socialism can destroy.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"...How about locked up nude with Helen Thomas?..."

I could care less...just as long as it AIN'T HER that's nude...

17 posted on 03/05/2007 2:23:58 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: SmithL
The study asked 279 people who identified themselves as victims of torture if they felt like they had been tortured.

If their experiences (for which they blame their current unhappiness or other problems) didn't amount to torture by the definition of the State department, that was considered evidence that things that the state department doesn't consider torture must really be torture.

That's about as unscientific of a study as you can get.

18 posted on 03/05/2007 2:25:58 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

about as reliable as a UN study on anything.


19 posted on 03/05/2007 2:33:44 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: M203M4
It is like the way Feminism has tried to redefine 'rape" or sexual harrassment.

Look at this quote from Catharine MacKinnon: "In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies.

Lest you think this woman is a crackpot, marginalized on the left, take a look at the Wikipedia entry on her Here.

20 posted on 03/05/2007 2:36:13 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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